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    lynma is offline Newbie
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    King of nothing

    If I want to describ a sports team that is real good but seldom win a trophy, can I use "king of nothing"?
    If not, does "king without crown" work?

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    Re: King of nothing

    No, neither of those work. You could call them a "perennial contender."

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    Re: King of nothing

    Ok, I see. But the question is that "perennial contender" doesn't have the meaning of "seldom win a trophy".

    What I try to point out is simply the difference between this team from those with couple of champions.

    Still, thank you very much.

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    Re: King of nothing

    You said "seldom," not "never." Someone who is a contender is among the top teams. They might win the championship sometimes and sometimes not.

    There isn't a particular word for someone who seldom wins, but is a contender. If they never win, you might say they were "always the bridesmaid and never the bride."

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