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    'Civility' the same as 'pleasantry'?

    Hi,

    Are these two words interchangably used in English? If not, may I have some examples please?

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    #2

    Re: 'Civility' the same as 'pleasantry'?

    Have you looked them both up in several reputable dictionaries? Please give us the definitions you have found which suggest that they are interchangeable.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    #3

    Re: 'Civility' the same as 'pleasantry'?

    Thanks. There were, indeed, two examples which, to me, seemed to be referring to the same situation:

    1. After exchanging pleasantries, the delegation revealed the purpose of their visit.
    2. After a few civilities, they got down to business.

    To a native speaker it may sound strange how one can so easily think they're "interchangable", but, please, note that when we have never heard them before it would be a world of 'rough guesses' to us. So, please accept my apologies.

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    #4

    Re: 'Civility' the same as 'pleasantry'?

    In those two sentences, the words have very similar meanings. Civility, the uncountable noun meaning 'polite behaviour' is far more common than the plural form meaning 'polite chit-chat'

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    Re: 'Civility' the same as 'pleasantry'?

    As 5jj said, they're similar when used that way.

    Please note that when I asked you to show why you thought they were interchangeable, I wasn't trying to suggest "You're wrong. Please explain how you could possibly think they mean the same thing". I simply wanted you to show us what you had seen which led you to the question. If you'd posted the examples in post #1, you would have got 5jj's response straight away and the thread would only have required two posts.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: 'Civility' the same as 'pleasantry'?

    Sure dear emsr2d2. Point taken! I'm always learning new things here. Thanks for all!

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    Re: 'Civility' the same as 'pleasantry'?

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    . I simply wanted you to show us what you had seen which led you to the question.
    Quite When I read the first post, my immediate reaction was to write, "No. What makes you think they could be?" I simply did not think of the second, less common, meaning of 'civility'

    I am sure that some people (I am not talking about you, Mehrgan) think that we are being a little authoritarian and unhelpful when we keep on about context but, as this thread has shown, a helpful answer can often be given only if we have full context.

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    Re: 'Civility' the same as 'pleasantry'?

    Quote Originally Posted by 5jj View Post
    In those two sentences, the words have very similar meanings. Civility, the uncountable noun meaning 'polite behaviour' is far more common than the plural form meaning 'polite chit-chat'
    Interesting point. The plural is almost a different word. A good dictionary should point this out, though I wouldn't be surprised if many don't.

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