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    #1

    some people who have tried it

    1-Some people who have tried this machine say it is not good.

    Does this mean:
    a. Only some of the people who have tried this machine say it is not good.
    b. Those people who have tried this machine say it is not good.
    c. The sentence is ambiguous.

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    #2

    Re: some people who have tried it

    I am not a teacher and native speaker, but I would choose 3.

    Nickle.
    If I have made any mistakes, please tell me about them. I need to improve my English anyway and I hope you'll help me.

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    Re: some people who have tried it

    Personally, I think those (A,B,C) are strange choices. If it's a test question, the teacher should look into rewriting it. :) Because this test question is difficult and confusing, you won't get an accurate measure with it.

    From that sentence, we know that there are people who have tried the machine, and an unknown number (but not all or none) of them have said it wasn't good. Do we know about the people who have not tried the machine? (No.) Have all the people who have tried the machine said it's not good? (No, not all, only some.) However, it does not follow that "the sentence is ambiguous" because the sentence is not ambiguous at all. It conveys the intended information perfectly.

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    #4

    Re: some people who have tried it

    not a teacher

    Some people who have tried this machine say it is not good.

    I agree that the sentence is ambiguous.
    For example:
    I've got this new machine. Some curious people tried it and they say it was no good.
    I've got this new machine. A number of curious people tried it and some of them say it was no good.

    "Some people who have tried this machine say it is not good" covers both those scenarios. When the sentence is spoken, intonation would clarify the meaning.

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    #5
    The correct choice is a, in my opinion.

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    Re: some people who have tried it

    c. It's ambiguous as a written sentence.
    It depends on whether 'some' is stressed. "Some people" means "some, but not all.

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    #7

    Re: some people who have tried it

    I agree that it's ambiguous. We do not know if it's "Some people who have tried the machine (out of all of the people who have tried the machine) say it's no good" or "There are some people who have tried this machine and they all said it's no good". To be non-ambiguous, it would have to say:

    Some of the people who tried this machine said it was no good.
    or
    Some people tried this machine and they [all] said it was no good.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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