Funnier VS more fun

[TitoBr]

Hello!

Whenever you have a short adjective you add 'er' or 'ier'. But since I saw 'more fun' being used I believe this is not a general rule, is it?

I need to know why 'more fun' is correct AND if it is equivalent to 'funnier'.

Can anyone please help?

Cheers,
Tito

 

[Offroad]

[I am not a teacher]

I don't think they are equivalent.

 

[SoothingDave]

"Fun" and "funny" are two different words.

"Funnier" is something that is more funny.

"Funner" is something that is more fun. I would only use "more fun." "Funner" strikes me as an odd word.

 

[tzfujimino]

Hello.:-D
I've always thought 'fun' is an uncountable noun. It is, however, listed as an adjective in many dictionaries here.

1. funny - funnier - (the) funniest - 'funny' is an adjective
2. much fun - more fun - (the) most fun - 'fun' is a noun modified by 'much'

When the 'fun' is used as an adjective, its comparative and superlative would be:
fun - funner - funnest

I agree with SoothingDave that 'fun' and 'funny' are two different words.

 

[SoothingDave]

I was honestly surprised to see "funner" in the dictionary. I would not say "a bad day on the golf course is funner than a good day at the office." I would say "more fun."

 

[tzfujimino]

I was honestly surprised to see "funner" in the dictionary. I would not say "a bad day on the golf course is funner than a good day at the office." I would say "more fun."

I find your sentence odd, too. I'd probably write/say 'more fun' in that case. (And I personally think the 'fun' in your sentence is a noun. Therefore 'more fun'.)

Then, what about:

There is a fun thing to do here.
1. There is a funner thing to do there.
2. There is a more fun thing to do there.

Would you choose #2?

 

[SoothingDave]

I find your sentence odd, too. I'd probably write/say 'more fun' in that case. (And I personally think the 'fun' in your sentence is a noun. Therefore 'more fun'.)

Then, what about:

There is a fun thing to do here.
1. There is a funner thing to do there.
2. There is a more fun thing to do there.

Would you choose #2?

It's a predicate adjective as I reckon it. It's describing the day. Day is more fun.

I would not choose #2 either. I would avoid the word "funner" completely. But that is me.

 

[probus]

I have decried the adjectival use of fun in the past: see the thread "Fun is a noun goddammit" under English Idioms and Sayings. But the evolution of the language grinds on relentlessly.

 

[UM Chakma]

Hi tzfujimino,
much better-more better-(the)most better. Is it correct?

 

[tzfujimino]

Hi tzfujimino,
much better-more better-(the)most better. Is it correct?

Hello, UM Chakma.:-D

No, it isn't.

'good (well) - better - (the) best' is correct.

 

[UM Chakma]

I am completely aware of "good-better-best". I have seen a number of times "much better" used by people. That is what made me ask the question. Also "much easier".

 

[SoothingDave]

"Much better" is fine, but there would not be a "most better."

 

[charliedeut]

"Much better" is fine, but there would not be a "most better."

But the is a "bestest" (although it is slangy): Bestest | Define Bestest at Dictionary.com :-?

 

[tzfujimino]

I am completely aware of "good-better-best". I have seen a number of times "much better" used by people. That is what made me ask the question. Also "much easier".

Hello, again.:-D
"Much better" and "much easier" are both correct, but you cannot say "more better" or "(the) most better".

 

[SoothingDave]

That's a word I wouldn't expect to find in a dictionary. It is mostly used among preteen girls who have bestest friends forever. (BFFs)

 

[charliedeut]

That's a word I wouldn't expect to find in a dictionary. It is mostly used among preteen girls who have bestest friends forever. (BFFs) :shock:

I didn't expect it either. I just googled it and found the reference I gave. I have never used it, and I'm in no rush to do so (my preteen years went by some time ago already, to say the least). However, I did warn it was slangy. That done, it's always up to readers of the post to use it or forget it). :up:

 

[UM Chakma]

Are "much better" and "much easier" type of idioms?

 

[UM Chakma]

I think I am now getting it. Then I can use "much" with other comparative forms. Can't I? For examples: much worthier, much lazier, much harder, much stronger. Correct?

 

[tzfujimino]

I think I am now getting it. Then I can use "much" with other comparative forms. Can't I? For examples: much worthier, much lazier, much harder, much stronger. Correct?

Yes, you can.

Are "much better" and "much easier" type of idioms?

I wouldn't call it an 'idiom'.
Comparatives are modified by much/far/even/a bit/a lot etc.

:-D

 

[UM Chakma]

Am I correct? Wow! Thank you very much. A confusion of a long time has been just sorted out. I have to note down these all "much/far/even/a bit/a lot".