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    Dear teachers,

    I apologise in advance for the terrible thread title.

    I'd like to know which of these is correct English:

    Many young people, say at their 16, feel as though their opinion doesn't/didn't matter.

    I know the tenses should match, but would that work for all cases? I think not.

    Thank you

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    Re: Did vs does

    Quote Originally Posted by Offroad View Post
    Dear teachers,

    I apologise in advance for the terrible thread title.

    I'd like to know which of these is correct English:

    Many young people, when they are 16, feel as though their opinion doesn't/didn't matter.

    I know the tenses should match, but would that work for all cases? I think not.

    Thank you
    The tenses should only match if they convey the correct meaning. Both of your options could work.

    doesn't = now
    didn't = in the past

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    Re: Did vs does

    Now I am interested in knowing why you didn't like my way of stating the age of those young people.

    Thank you

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    #4

    Re: Did vs does

    Quote Originally Posted by Offroad View Post
    Now I am interested in knowing why you didn't like my way of stating the age of those young people.

    Thank you
    Because "at their 16" is not idiomatic English.

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    #5

    Re: Did vs does

    I see.

    How about these ones?

    Many young people aged 16 and 17 feel as though their opinion doesn't matter.
    They quit school at the age of 13.
    Highly educated people usually get their job in their 30's.

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    #6

    Re: Did vs does

    Quote Originally Posted by Offroad View Post
    I see.

    How about these ones?

    Many young people aged 16 and 17 feel as though their opinion doesn't matter.
    They quit school at the age of 13.
    Highly educated people usually get their job in their 30's.
    The first two are right.
    The third doesn't make sense. What is "their job"? I got a job at 16, another at 20, one at 23, etc.

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    #7

    Re: Did vs does

    Quote Originally Posted by Offroad View Post
    I see.

    How about these ones?

    Many young people aged 16 and 17 feel as though their opinion doesn't matter.
    They quit school at the age of 13.
    Highly educated people usually get their job in their 30's.
    If, by "highly educated people", you mean "people who stay in education for a long time" (the two don't necessarily equate in my opinion), then you could say something like "Some people who undertake a lot of further education don't get a job (or "their first job") until they're in their 30s." Lots of people in long-term further education take a part-time job in order to help with the fees.
    Last edited by emsr2d2; 01-Aug-2013 at 07:55.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    #8

    Re: Did vs does

    There's no need for an apostrophe in "...in their 30s".

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    #9

    Re: Did vs does

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    If, by "highly educated people", you mean "people who stay in education for a long time" (the two don't necessarily equate in my opinion), then you could say something like "Some people who undertake a lot of further education don't get a job (or "their first job") until they're in their 30s." Lots of people in long-term further education take a part-time job in order to help with the fees.
    I guess that varies from country to country.
    Let me make a few amendments:
    Many highly educated people get their first job in their 30s.
    I thought I had included the word 'first', but I didn't.

    Thank you

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    #10

    Re: Did vs does

    Quote Originally Posted by Offroad View Post
    I guess that varies from country to country.
    Let me make a few amendments:

    I thought I had included the word 'first', but I didn't. - That explains something.

    Thank you
    I think that in most English-speaking countries, if very highly educated people could not expect to get their first job until in their 30s, there would not be many highly educated people. The exception would be "professional students" who receive government subsidies while they study, to be paid back when their income reaches a certain level. These people generally do not intend ever to reach that income level.

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