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    #1

    either didn't take his medication

    Are these sentences correct:

    1-He either did not take his medication this morning or drank in the afternoon. Those are the two things that can have made him feel bad.

    2-He did not take his medication this morning or drank in the afternoon. Those are the two things that can have made him feel bad.


    3-John either did not talk to Mary or Sally. I do not know which.

    4-John did not talk to Mary or Sally. I do not know which.
    Meaning of '3' and '4': He did not talk to one of the two, but I don't know which one he did not talk to, Mary or Sally.

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    #2

    Re: either didn't take his medication

    1- I would use Either he....
    3 & 4 don't work for me. How about He didn't manage to speak to both, but I don't know whether he spoke to Mary or Sally.

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    #3

    Re: either didn't take his medication

    Thank you very much Tdol.
    So '2' works?

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    #4

    Re: either didn't take his medication

    Quote Originally Posted by navi tasan View Post
    2-He did not take his medication this morning or drank in the afternoon. Those are the two things that can have made him feel bad.


    He did not take his medication or drink ​in the afternoon.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    #5

    Re: either didn't take his medication

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    He did not take his medication or drink ​in the afternoon.
    Changing the verb from "drank" to "drink" changes the meaning of the sentence.

    I read the original as: He either did not take his medication this morning or (he) drank in the afternoon. Those are the two things that can have made him feel bad. [Not taking his medication] is one reason; [drinking] is another.
    If the verb is changed, I read: He either did not take his medication this morning or (he did not) drink in the afternoon. Those are the two things that can have made him feel bad. [Not taking his medication] is one reason; [not drinking] is another.

    Based on the sentence, I think the "drinking" that is referred to is alcohol. That fits the original meaning.
    However, if the "drinking" refers to any liquids, and dehydration is a possibility, then your amended sentence is better.

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    #6

    Re: either didn't take his medication

    If it meant "he might have taken alcohol in the afternoon" I would say that it needs to be worded:

    "Either he did not take his medication this morning or he drank in the afternoon ..."

    For me, any verb which follows "he did not" must also be assumed to take "he did not". Without the extra "he", then I read "Either he did not take his medication this morning or he did not drink in the afternoon" (which, as I said, requires "drink" not "drank").
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    #7

    Re: either didn't take his medication

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    If it meant "he might have taken alcohol in the afternoon" I would say that it needs to be worded:

    "Either he did not take his medication this morning or he drank in the afternoon ..."

    For me, any verb which follows "he did not" must also be assumed to take "he did not". Without the extra "he", then I read "Either he did not take his medication this morning or he did not drink in the afternoon" (which, as I said, requires "drink" not "drank").
    I understand. I thought that was how you read it. Your addition of "he" before "drank" solves the problem completely.

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    #8

    Re: either didn't take his medication

    Thank you all very much.

    If I understand correctly this one does not work:

    2-He did not take his medication this morning or drank in the afternoon. Those are the two things that can have made him feel bad.

    How about:

    2a-He did not take his medication this morning or he drank in the afternoon. Those are the two things that can have made him feel bad.

    Gratefully,
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    #9

    Re: either didn't take his medication

    Quote Originally Posted by navi tasan View Post
    Thank you all very much.

    If I understand correctly this one does not work:

    2-He did not take his medication this morning or drank in the afternoon. Those are the two things that can have made him feel bad.

    How about:

    2a-He did not take his medication this morning or he drank in the afternoon. Those are the two things that can have made him feel bad.
    If you look at post #6, you will see that that is exactly the sentence I suggested.

    Gratefully,
    Navi.
    See above.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    #10

    Re: either didn't take his medication

    Thank you very much Emsr2d2,

    Mine (2a) does not have 'either' at the beginning. Yours begins with 'either.

    I don't really like '2a' because of that. I feel that the disjunction is not expressed clearly. But maybe it is just equivalent to your sentence. In any case I like yours better.

    Gratefully,
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