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    Noun, Pronoun, or Adjective

    My son had an English test that he did not do so well. When looking over the questions to help him, I found myself having problems too.
    The test contains sentences with underlined words that you are to say whether it is a noun, pronoun, or adjective. The sentences are below.
    1.) Many have heard about how the pony express carried the mail in 1860 and 1861.
    2.) I can't believe you said that!
    3.) The alphabet uses raised dots that the visually impaired can feel.
    4.) These are the short stories that my friends and I wrote.
    5.) One of us is sure to win the prize, which is a scholarship to a summer writing workshop.

    There are other sentences with similar words that he got correct. I would just like someone to explain to me how to tell the difference when these words are used as adjectives versus pronouns.

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    Re: Noun, Pronoun, or Adjective

    Quote Originally Posted by tiffanywright View Post
    My son had an English test that he did not do so well. When looking over the questions to help him, I found myself having problems too.
    The test contains sentences with underlined words that you are to say whether it is a noun, pronoun, or adjective. The sentences are below.
    1.) Many have heard about how the pony express carried the mail in 1860 and 1861.
    2.) I can't believe you said that!
    3.) The alphabet uses raised dots that the visually impaired can feel.
    4.) These are the short stories that my friends and I wrote.
    5.) One of us is sure to win the prize, which is a scholarship to a summer writing workshop.

    There are other sentences with similar words that he got correct. I would just like someone to explain to me how to tell the difference when these words are used as adjectives versus pronouns.
    In numbers 3 and 5, the underlined word is a relative pronoun that also acts as a conjunction. In 1, 2, and 5, the words are pronouns.

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    Re: Noun, Pronoun, or Adjective

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork View Post
    In numbers 3 and 5, the underlined word is a relative pronoun that also acts as a conjunction. In 1, 2, and 5, the words are pronouns.
    They are all pronouns (of various kinds, including demonstrative - #2 & 4 - and relative - 3 & 5).
    I must disagree with Mike's description of the latter as 'conjunctions': pronouns and conjunctions are mutually exclusive form-classes. Some grammarians, however, would admit the inclusion of both under the general heading of 'connectors'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by philo2009 View Post
    They are all pronouns (of various kinds, including demonstrative - #2 & 4 - and relative - 3 & 5).
    I must disagree with Mike's description of the latter as 'conjunctions': pronouns and conjunctions are mutually exclusive form-classes. Some grammarians, however, would admit the inclusion of both under the general heading of 'connectors'.
    I said they were "acting as conjunctions" and they are.

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    Nonetheless, we grammarians prefer to draw a distinction between the two terms, however trifling and insignificant it may seem to you.

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    Re: Noun, Pronoun, or Adjective

    Quote Originally Posted by philo2009 View Post
    Nonetheless, we grammarians prefer to draw a distinction between the two terms, however trifling and insignificant it may seem to you.
    It is neither trifling nor insignificant, but it really doesn't help explain the language to learners.
    Last edited by emsr2d2; 24-Aug-2013 at 19:19. Reason: Typo correction

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    Re: Noun, Pronoun, or Adjective

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork View Post
    but it really doesn't help explain the language to learners.
    That has never seemed to have been a goal for the the other poster in this discussion.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Quote Originally Posted by philo2009 View Post
    Nonetheless, we grammarians prefer to draw a distinction between the two terms, however trifling and insignificant it may seem to you.
    It would be preferable if you used "I" instead of "we grammarians". It is possible that other users might think that you are including the rest of us in that phrase when, in fact, we may well not agree with you.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    It is neither trifling nor insignificant,

    Gratified to know that you think so...


    but it really doesn't help explain the language to learners.

    It helps them to understand that pronouns are not conjunctions...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    That has never seemed to have been a goal for the the other poster in this discussion.
    Not in the least.
    That is always my goal.

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