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    3. Indirect = Kate just called. She asked whether or not I enjoyed my vocation.

    1. Direct = Kate just called. She asked, “Did you enjoy your vocation?”
    2. Indirect = Kate just called. She asked whether or not I had enjoyed my/our vacation.

    Hello teachers,

    Is number 3 also correct or not? (number 3 is made by myself.)

    3. Indirect = Kate just called. She asked whether or not I enjoyed my vacation.

    Thank you.
    Last edited by sb70012; 05-Sep-2013 at 17:40.

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    Re: 3. Indirect = Kate just called. She asked whether or not I enjoyed my vocation.

    Quote Originally Posted by sb70012 View Post
    1. Direct = Kate just called. She asked, “Did you enjoy your vocation?”
    2. Indirect = Kate just called. She asked whether or not I had enjoyed my/our vacation.

    Hello teachers,

    Is number 3 also correct or not? (number 3 is made by myself.)

    3. Indirect = Kate just called. She asked whether or not I enjoyed my vacation.

    Thank you.
    Yes, it's OK.

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    Re: 3. Indirect = Kate just called. She asked whether or not I enjoyed my vocation.

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    Yes, it's OK.
    But if the verb of direct speech is past tense then the verb of indirect speech will be past perfect. Isn't it?

    When a reporting verb is in the simple past tense, backshifting is optional when:

    1. the statement refers to something JUST said:

    Direct = Alex just called. He said, “The director is leaving.”
    Indirect = Alex just called. He said (that) the director is leaving.
    or
    Indirect = Alex just called. He said (that) the director was leaving.
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    2. the direct speech refers to something that’s still true:

    Direct
    = Jennifer said, “I need to renew my passport.”
    Indirect = Jennifer said that she needed to renew her passport.
    or
    Indirect = Jennifer said that she needs to renew her passport.
    ************************************************** *************************************
    3. the direct speech refers to a scientific or general truth:

    Direct = He found, “the Earth is the fifth largest planet in the solar system.”
    Indirect = He noted that the Earth is the fifth largest planet in the solar system.
    or
    Indirect = He noted that the Earth was the fifth largest planet in the solar system.
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    Then, according to these explanations, it's incorrect to say (I enjoyed)

    Aren't I right?

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    Re: 3. Indirect = Kate just called. She asked whether or not I enjoyed my vocation.

    I agree with bhai that it's OK, whatever the book says.

    You may have discovered an exception to the 'rule'.

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    Re: 3. Indirect = Kate just called. She asked whether or not I enjoyed my vocation.

    Quote Originally Posted by sb70012 View Post
    But if the verb of direct speech is past tense then the verb of indirect speech will be past perfect. Isn't it?

    When a reporting verb is in the simple past tense, backshifting is optional when:

    1. the statement refers to something JUST said:

    Direct = Alex just called. He said, “The director is leaving.”
    Indirect = Alex just called. He said (that) the director is leaving.
    or
    Indirect = Alex just called. He said (that) the director was leaving.

    ************************************************** ****************
    Then, according to these explanations, it's incorrect to say (I enjoyed)

    Aren't I right?
    How is "Kate just called" an exception? It's right there as your first rule!
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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