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    Gerund or participle: He went fishing with his friends.

    http://www.myenglishgrammar.com/english/lesson-15-gerunds-and-present-participles.html

    A present participle is used: after a verb.

    Example: He went fishing with his friends.

    http://www.grammaring.com/the-difference-between-the-gerund-and-the-present-participle

    It may be worth remembering that a gerund always functions as a noun:

    Object of a verb: Jill suggested going for a drink.
    __________________________________________________ ____________________

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    wondering if "fishing" is a participle as shown in the above example i.e He went fishing with his friends.

    Could anybody help, please?



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    Re: Gerund or participle: He went fishing with his friends.

    Quote Originally Posted by Winwin2011 View Post
    http://www.myenglishgrammar.com/english/lesson-15-gerunds-and-present-participles.html

    A present participle is used: after a verb.

    Example: He went fishing with his friends.

    http://www.grammaring.com/the-difference-between-the-gerund-and-the-present-participle

    It may be worth remembering that a gerund always functions as a noun:

    Object of a verb: Jill suggested going for a drink.
    __________________________________________________ ____________________

    I was
    wondering if "fishing" is a participle as shown in the above example i.e He went fishing with his friends.

    Could anybody help, please?


    Yes, it is the present participle of the verb "to fish".

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    Re: Gerund or participle: He went fishing with his friends.

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork View Post
    Yes, it is the present participle of the verb "to fish".
    Thanks, Mike.

    Gerund can be used as the object of a verb e.g I enjoy dancing. It seems that "fishing' is the object of "went" in the above context. I'm confused with the difference.

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    Re: Gerund or participle: He went fishing with his friends.

    Quote Originally Posted by Winwin2011 View Post
    Thanks, Mike.

    Gerund can be used as the object of a verb e.g I enjoy dancing. It seems that "fishing' is the object of "went" in the above context. I'm confused with the difference.
    I don't see it as a gerund noun. The verb "go" sometimes functions as an auxiliary verb. In this construction I would call "went fishing" the verb. An alternative view is that "fishing" (a participle) acts as an adverb modifying the verb "went".

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    Re: Gerund or participle: He went fishing with his friends.

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork View Post
    I don't see it as a gerund noun. The verb "go" sometimes functions as an auxiliary verb. In this construction I would call "went fishing" the verb. An alternative view is that "fishing" (a participle) acts as an adverb modifying the verb "went".
    Thanks, Mike.

    I've just found the following website talking about the participle.

    Participles (Partizipien)

    The present participle can be used to describe the following verbs:
    come, go, sit

    Example: The girl sat crying on the sofa.


    The present participle can also be used after verbs of the senses if we do not want to emphasise that the action was completed. (see Infinitive or Ing-Form)
    feel, find, hear, listen to, notice, see, smell, watch

    Example: Did you see him dancing?

    __________________________________________________ ___

    Does it mean that any -ing form of the verb following "come, go, sit" is a participle? If, it does. Does the rule apply to "come, go, sit" and verbs of the senses only?
    Last edited by Winwin2011; 08-Sep-2013 at 20:54.

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    Re: Gerund or participle: He went fishing with his friends.

    Quote Originally Posted by Winwin2011 View Post
    Thanks, Mike.

    I've just found the following website talking about the participle.

    Participles (Partizipien)

    The present participle can be used to describe the following verbs:
    come, go, sit

    Example: The girl sat crying on the sofa.


    The present participle can also be used after verbs of the senses if we do not want to emphasise that the action was completed. (see Infinitive or Ing-Form)
    feel, find, hear, listen to, notice, see, smell, watch

    Example: Did you see him dancing?

    __________________________________________________ ___

    Does it mean that any -ing form of the verb following "come, go, sit" is a participle? If, it does. Does the rule apply to "come, go, sit" and verbs of the senses only?
    Yes, -ing forms of verbs are either gerunds (nouns) or present participles. "Participles" can be part of the main verb in a sentence (e.g. The boy is flying a kite.) or can be a modifier (adjective or adverb).

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    Re: Gerund or participle: He went fishing with his friends.

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork View Post
    Yes, -ing forms of verbs are either gerunds (nouns) or present participles. "Participles" can be part of the main verb in a sentence (e.g. The boy is flying a kite.) or can be a modifier (adjective or adverb).
    Thanks, mike.

    I refer to the following information and have some follow-up questions as follows:

    1. Participles (Partizipien)

    The present participle can be used to describe the following verbs:
    come, go, sit

    Example: The girl sat crying on the sofa.


    The present participle can also be used after verbs of the senses if we do not want to emphasise that the action was completed. (see Infinitive or Ing-Form)
    feel, find, hear, listen to, notice, see, smell, watch

    Example: Did you see him dancing?
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    2. The followings are copied from "Longman English Grammar" L.G. Alexander

    16.40 Some common uses of the '-ing form (gerund)

    16.40.3 As the object of a verb

    I hear shouting.
    __________________________________________________ __________________

    In 1 the -ing form used used after verbs of the senses can be "Participles" e.g Did you see him dancing. Dancing is a participle. I think "Dancing " is used to modify "him" However, in 2 (L.G. Alexander) e.g I hear shouting. Shouting is a gerund.

    I just want to confirm whether I am correct.
    Last edited by Winwin2011; 09-Sep-2013 at 05:20.

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    Re: Gerund or participle: He went fishing with his friends.

    Quote Originally Posted by Winwin2011 View Post
    Thanks, mike.

    I refer to the following information and have some follow-up questions as follows:

    1. Participles (Partizipien)

    The present participle can be used to describe the following verbs:
    come, go, sit

    Example: The girl sat crying on the sofa.


    The present participle can also be used after verbs of the senses if we do not want to emphasise that the action was completed. (see Infinitive or Ing-Form)
    feel, find, hear, listen to, notice, see, smell, watch

    Example: Did you see him dancing?
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    2. The followings are copied from "Longman English Grammar" L.G. Alexander

    16.40 Some common uses of the '-ing form (gerund)

    16.40.3 As the object of a verb

    I hear shouting.
    __________________________________________________ __________________

    In 1 the -ing form used used after verbs of the senses can be "Participles" e.g Did you see him dancing. Dancing is a participle. However, in 2 (L.G. Alexander) e.g I hear shouting. Shouting is a gerund.

    Would be obligied if you could further explained it to me.
    There is a big difference between "I heard him shouting" and "I heard shouting". In the first, "shouting" is a participle, modifying "him". In the second "shouting" is a noun (gerund).

    It is even worse if the discussion is about a female.

    "I hear her shouting" is a problem, because "her" is both the possessive pronoun and the objective pronoun. Let's change the gender to clarify the matter.

    I hear him shouting. (shouting is participial modifier)
    I hear his shouting. (shouting is a gerund noun)

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    Re: Gerund or participle: He went fishing with his friends.

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork View Post
    There is a big difference between "I heard him shouting" and "I heard shouting". In the first, "shouting" is a participle, modifying "him". In the second "shouting" is a noun (gerund).

    It is even worse if the discussion is about a female.

    "I hear her shouting" is a problem, because "her" is both the possessive pronoun and the objective pronoun. Let's change the gender to clarify the matter.

    I hear him shouting. (shouting is participial modifier)
    I hear his shouting. (shouting is a gerund noun)
    Many thanks, Mike.

    I'm sorry that I edited my post when you were replying it. I think I got the difference.

    Quoted "The present participle can be used to describe the following verbs:
    come, go, sit

    You said "The verb "go" sometimes functions as an auxiliary verb". Do "come" and "sit" sometimes function as auxiliary verbs as well?
    Would be obliged if could give me some examples. Then I think I could fully understand the use of "particples".

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    Re: Gerund or participle: He went fishing with his friends.

    Quote Originally Posted by Winwin2011 View Post
    Many thanks, Mike.

    I'm sorry that I edited my post when you were replying it. I think I got the difference.

    Quoted "The present participle can be used to describe the following verbs:
    come, go, sit

    You said "The verb "go" sometimes functions as an auxiliary verb". Do "come" and "sit" sometimes function as auxiliary verbs as well?
    Would be obliged if could give me some examples. Then I think I could fully understand the use of "particples".
    I have not heard "come" or "sit" described as auxiliary verbs.

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