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Suppose we have a big hole in the wall. The hole was created as a result of pulling a pipe out of the wall. I would like to underline the fact that the big hole in the wall results from the pipe having been pulled out.

Can I say?

We have a big hole (in the wall) from the pipe = We have a big hole (in the wall) where the pipe used to be / exist =
We have a big hole (in the wall) because of the pipe which "sat" inside.

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You don't have a hole in the wall because of the pipe that used to be there. The pipe is innocent.

You have a hole because someone ripped the pipe out of the wall.
 

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I would like to make sure that I may use "from the pipe" instead of "where the pipe used to be / exist?
In my opinion, "from" in the sentence under discussion means "as a result of the fact that somebody ripped the pipe out of the wall, creating a big hole. "From" = "as a consequence of the pipe having been ripped out".
The same applies, I think, to the following example:
I was half-way through eating my favourite berry dish when suddenly a crazy child stormed into the room and spilled the dish all over my dress. Can you see? The dark stubborn stains are from the berries.

A hole from the pipe, stains from the berries, a carter from eruption (in a volcano), connections from the fittings - I think there is some common ground between the phrases.
Connections from the fittings = connections to which the fittings were fastened.

A reply would be very appreciated.
 
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Would someone help me with this issue/question, please?

I am very eager to know your opinion on this meaning of "from".

The issue has not been exhausted yet. Only one person responded. :-?
 

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Stains can be from berries, but, as SD pointed out, a hole can't really be 'from' a pipe.
 

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The hole might be from puling the pipe out. Please don't answer if I overstepped my limit of questions.
 

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The hole might be from puling the pipe out. Please don't answer if I overstepped my limit of questions.
Yes, you can say, "There is a big hole in the wall from a pipe being pulled out."
 

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"There is a big hole in the wall where a pipe was pulled out" seems much more natural to me.
 
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