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    Is the sentence right too? Thank you for helping me!

    Hemingway's wives_____Hadley Richardson, Pauline Pfeiffer, Martha Gelhom, and Mary Welsh_____were all strong and interesting women.
    (a sentence in GMAT, a right sentence)




    Now, I want know the below sentence is right or not!
    Hemingway's wives_____Hadley Richardson, Pauline Pfeiffer, Martha Gelhom, and Mary Welsh_____all were strong and interesting women.

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    Re: Is the sentence right too? Thank you for helping me!

    Quote Originally Posted by dodonaomik View Post
    Hemingway's wives_____Hadley Richardson, Pauline Pfeiffer, Martha Gelhom, and Mary Welsh_____were all strong and interesting women.
    (a sentence in GMAT, a right sentence)




    Now, I want know the below sentence is right or not!
    Hemingway's wives_____Hadley Richardson, Pauline Pfeiffer, Martha Gelhom, and Mary Welsh_____all were strong and interesting women.
    The second would be OK with a comma after "Welsh".

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    Re: Is the sentence right too? Thank you for helping me!

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    The second would be OK with a comma after "Welsh".
    Bhai's resulting sentence would be "Hemingway's wives Hadley Richardson, Pauline Pfeiffer, Martha Gelhom, and Mary Welsh, all were strong women." I'm sorry to say that I don't like it much.

    I agree with Bhai that the original could be made correct but, in my opinion, only if "were" were inserted between "wives" and "Hadley" and a dash used after "Welsh".

    Hemingway's wives were Hadley Richardson, Pauline Pfeiffer, Martha Gelhom (no comma here) and Mary Welsh - all were strong and interesting women.

    I'll be interested to hear what others think.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: Is the sentence right too? Thank you for helping me!

    bhaisahab:
    Thanks a lot!
    In my opinion, in the second, if "all" means "Hemingway's wives" or "Hadley Richardson, Pauline Pfeiffer, Martha Gelhom, and Mary Welsh" as an appositive of "Hemingway's wives", thus it seems inappropriate and redundant.
    So, "all" means "totally" as an adverb.
    These are my opinion, but I am not sure my opinion is right.
    Do think my opinion is right?
    Last edited by dodonaomik; 14-Sep-2013 at 03:10.

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    Re: Is the sentence right too? Thank you for helping me!

    In my opinion, these are possible:

    Hemingway's wives, Hadley Richardson, Pauline Pfeiffer, Martha Gelhom no comma and Mary Welsh, were all strong and interesting women.

    Hemingway's wives, Hadley Richardson, Pauline Pfeiffer, Martha Gelhom no commaand Mary Welsh, all were strong and interesting women.

    Hemingway's wives were Hadley Richardson, Pauline Pfeiffer, Martha Gelhom no comma and Mary Welsh; all were strong and interesting women.


    I don't much like the second, but I think it's acceptable.

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    Re: Is the sentence right too? Thank you for helping me!

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    Hemingway's wives were Hadley Richardson, Pauline Pfeiffer, Martha Gelhom (no comma here) and Mary Welsh - all were strong and interesting women.
    emsr2d2:
    Thank you for helping me!
    I think the sentence is good and right, but I still wanna say I (as a non-native speaker) like the below sentence:
    Hemingway's wives were Hadley Richardson, Pauline Pfeiffer, Martha Gelhom (no comma here) and Mary Welsh , and they were all strong and interesting women.

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    Re: Is the sentence right too? Thank you for helping me!

    Quote Originally Posted by 5jj View Post
    In my opinion, these are possible:

    Hemingway's wives, Hadley Richardson, Pauline Pfeiffer, Martha Gelhom no comma and Mary Welsh, were all strong and interesting women.

    Hemingway's wives, Hadley Richardson, Pauline Pfeiffer, Martha Gelhom no commaand Mary Welsh, all were strong and interesting women.

    Hemingway's wives were Hadley Richardson, Pauline Pfeiffer, Martha Gelhom no comma and Mary Welsh; all were strong and interesting women.


    I don't much like the second, but I think it's acceptable.
    Thanks a lot!

    If I remember correctly, my senior English teacer (a serious Chinese women) taught us that "an adverb must be put behind of a predicate", so I guess many Chinese students will think your second sentence is strange or wrong.

    Will British native-speakers think your second sentence is right?

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    #8

    Re: Is the sentence right too? Thank you for helping me!

    Quote Originally Posted by dodonaomik View Post
    Thanks a lot!

    If I remember correctly, my senior English teacer (a serious Chinese women) taught us that "an adverb must be put behind of a predicate", so I guess many Chinese students will think your second sentence is strange or wrong.

    Will British native-speakers think your second sentence is right?
    I like 5jj's first sentence the best, but I would use the comma (Oxford comma) after the third name in the series.

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    Re: Is the sentence right too? Thank you for helping me!

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork View Post
    I like 5jj's first sentence the best, but I would use the comma (Oxford comma) after the third name in the series.
    Thank you!!! I feel 5jj's first sentence can be understood and accepted much more easily.
    Perhaps in China, serious English students have learned may be prepared for examination... ... "test English"?
    But my English teachers are all very very very good!
    ps:
    My junior English teacher is an amiable and earnest woman;
    senior English teacher is a slender and serious woman;
    university English teacher is a plumpy and rigorous woman.
    Last edited by dodonaomik; 14-Sep-2013 at 10:18.

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    Re: Is the sentence right too? Thank you for helping me!

    Much as I think it should be added to the dictionary, "plumpy" isn't a word! She is "plump" (note that it's not always polite to refer to someone's size/weight).
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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