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    • Join Date: Jan 2006
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    #1

    that or when???

    Hi
    please look at the two sentences below and tell me which you think is correct.

    by the time that George Washingotn arrived....

    by the time when George Washington arrived....

    I think using 'that' sounds more natural but my co-worker things 'when'.

    any ideas and explanations as to which is correct?

    smiles

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    Re: that or when???

    It's possible to replace "By the time that" and "At the time that" with "When",

    EX: At the time (that) he arrived, . . .
    EX: By the time (that) he arrived, . . .
    EX: When her arrived, . . .

    Note, "that" can be omitted ( . . . ) without changing the sentence's meaning or grammaticality.

    So,

    Grammatical: When George arrived, . . .
    Grammatical: By the time (that) George arrived, . . .
    Ungrammatical: *By the time when George arrived, . . .

    Hope that helps.

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    Re: that or when???

    Yeah, that's what I thought too.

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