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    article + herb tea

    Hello,

    Would you please tell me which article and which adjective work here and why?

    a herb / herbal tea OR an herb / herbal tea

    Thank you for your help.

    Hela

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    #2

    Re: article + herb tea

    In British English, we pronounce the "h" in herb/herbal etc, so it would be "a herb/herbal tea"
    I'm not a teacher of English, but I have spoken it for (almost) all of my life....

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    Re: article + herb tea

    Quote Originally Posted by hela View Post
    Hello,

    Would you please tell me which article and which adjective work here and why?

    a herb / herbal tea OR an herb / herbal tea

    Thank you for your help.

    Hela
    In AmE, the "h" in herb/herbal is silent. Therefore, we use "an".

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    Re: article + herb tea

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork View Post
    In AmE, the "h" in herb/herbal is silent. Therefore, we use "an".
    That threw me completely the first time I visited America and went out for dinner. After I had ordered my food, the waitress said "Do you want erb toast?" I genuinely had no idea what she was talking about. For a start, we have no such thing as (h)erb toast in the UK. We have garlic bread. So not only was I thrown by the word "erb" which I couldn't equate to anything at all, I wasn't helped by the use of the word "toast" which is simply toasted bread which we normally have for breakfast, not as a side dish with dinner. I only understood when I had another look at the menu and saw the words "herb toast" so I worked it out.

    I got my own back in a restaurant a few days later when I actually ordered "one herb toast please". The waitress looked at me completely blankly because for her, the word "herb" with the pronounced "h" was clearly alien.

    Such a little thing to cause so much confusion.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: article + herb tea

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    That threw me completely the first time I visited America and went out for dinner. After I had ordered my food, the waitress said "Do you want erb toast?" I genuinely had no idea what she was talking about. For a start, we have no such thing as (h)erb toast in the UK. We have garlic bread. So not only was I thrown by the word "erb" which I couldn't equate to anything at all, I wasn't helped by the use of the word "toast" which is simply toasted bread which we normally have for breakfast, not as a side dish with dinner. I only understood when I had another look at the menu and saw the words "herb toast" so I worked it out.

    I got my own back in a restaurant a few days later when I actually ordered "one herb toast please". The waitress looked at me completely blankly because for her, the word "herb" with the pronounced "h" was clearly alien.

    Such a little thing to cause so much confusion.
    It's amazing, isn't it? I am curious about the herb toast. Was it a crostini with olive oil and herbs?

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    Re: article + herb tea

    I have to admit I have never heard of herb toast either!
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: article + herb tea

    There is regional variation in AmE. I believe the more common pronunciation among (north) Americans is erb, but where I live (Toronto) we say herb.

    My new fun buddy Forvo shows two Americans saying herb, but three or four saying erb.
    Last edited by probus; 30-Sep-2013 at 04:35.

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    I don't know any Americans who say "H"erb. Where do your H-sayers live?
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Dunno. Forvo does not require them to say. Have a listen for yourself. I think Forvo has the potential to become huge.

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    Re: article + herb tea

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork View Post
    It's amazing, isn't it? I am curious about the herb toast. Was it a crostini with olive oil and herbs?
    If I remember rightly, it was soft square bread which had been sliced, drizzled with olive oil and herbs and then either toasted or baked in the oven. It was crispy/ crunchy on the top and bottom but soft in middle. I can't remember exactly where I was but it was during a trip which covered California, Colorado, Utah, Nevada. I heard the phrase again in a return trip covering Nashville, Montana and SF!
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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