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    Abraham Lincoln was a man known to have fallen many times, but succeeded through thes

    Abraham Lincoln was a man known to have fallen many times, but succeeded through these/those failures.

    The above sentence is written by a local writer of a test paper in English.

    1. Does "fallen" fit in the sentence?

    2. Can I use either 'these" or "those"? If only one choice is correct, what is the reason?

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    Re: Abraham Lincoln was a man known to have fallen many times, but succeeded through

    You could use fallen, but it's a metaphor, often for death, so I prefer "failed." Having succeeded "through" or "throughout" those failures is possible usage, but they could be criticized for not being very likely (through means because in this context, and throughout means during, so both are basically wrong). Lincoln succeeded despite his many failures. For example, it took him several losing political campaigns for each successful one in which he "won" an election to public office.

    Those would be more natural if you are referring to the failures only in this sentence, where "these" could be used when you are about to provide more details.

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