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    much less

    Is grammar of this clause true?

    pollutants in small towns are much less than big cities and the rate of illnesses consequently is much less.


    'much less' is adverb here?

    Thank you in advance.
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    Re: much less

    Quote Originally Posted by sohre View Post
    Is the grammar of this clause correct?

    Pollution in small towns is much lower than (it is) in big cities and the rate of illnesses is consequently is much lower.


    Is 'much less' is an adverb here?

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    #3

    Re: much less

    Quote Originally Posted by sohre View Post
    Is grammar of this clause true?

    pollutants in small towns are much less than big cities and the rate of illnesses consequently is much less.


    'much less' is adverb here?

    Thank you in advance.
    When "much" modifies "less", "much is an adverb. "Less" can be an adjective or an adverb.

    Your sentence, however, is not very good.

    I would rephrase it as: There is much less pollution in small towns than in big cities. Consequently, the illness rates in small towns are much lower.

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    Re: much less

    Thanks, but what is wrong with 'much less than'? While I check it with Longman Dictionary!

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    Re: much less

    "Much less than" can be correct in certain contexts. It was just incorrect in yours.

    I have much less money than you.
    I have many fewer trees than you.
    Pollution is much lower here than in Beijing.

    We don't count "pollution" in terms that can be deemed "more than" or "less than". It is "higher/lower/better/worse" etc.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: much less

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    "Much less than" can be correct in certain contexts. It was just incorrect in yours.

    I have much less money than you.
    I have many fewer trees than you.
    Pollution is much lower here than in Beijing.

    We don't count "pollution" in terms that can be deemed "more than" or "less than". It is "higher/lower/better/worse" etc.
    I may have misunderstood what you wrote, but are you saying that one cannot say "less pollution" or "more pollution"?

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    Re: much less

    Quote Originally Posted by sohre View Post
    Thanks, but what is wrong with 'much less than'? While I check it with Longman Dictionary!
    There's nothing wrong with "much less than". But you can't just use it anywhere you like.
    "Pollutants are less than ..." is as wrong as "Cats are less than dogs in London." You need to say something like, "The number of cats in London is less than the number of dogs. The amount of pollutants in city A is less than in city B" - although even this latter sentence should use "pollution".
    The number of pollutants in city A could be less, but overall pollution could be more if there is a larger amount of a smaller number of pollutants in city A. One ton of two different pollutants is more pollutants, but less pollution, than 1,000 tons of one pollutant.

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    Re: much less

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork View Post
    I may have misunderstood what you wrote, but are you saying that one cannot say "less pollution" or "more pollution"?
    No. That's not what I meant. Here's how I see the various possibilities:

    There is less pollution in London than in Beijing.
    Pollution is less in London than in Beijing.
    Pollution is lower in London than in Beijing.
    Pollution is worse in Beijing than in London.
    Pollution is more in Beijing than in London.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: much less

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    No. That's not what I meant. Here's how I see the various possibilities:

    There is less pollution in London than in Beijing.
    Pollution is less in London than in Beijing.
    Pollution is lower in London than in Beijing.
    Pollution is worse in Beijing than in London.
    Pollution is more in Beijing than in London.
    Then I did misunderstand what you wrote. We are good to go.

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