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    Listening more than once to this video, I couldn't recognize whether the s sound in the word using at 0:34 voiced or voiceless. Will you help me, please?


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    Re: using

    It sounded voiced to me.

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    #3

    Re: using

    Dear 5jj:

    Can the S in any words related to USE sound voiceless?, such as:

    Use, used, using, except usage.


    Regards,


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    Re: using

    Quote Originally Posted by The apprentice View Post
    Can the S in any words related to USE sound voiceless?, such as:

    Use, used, using, except usage.
    It is voiceless in the noun 'use' and in 'used to' and 'be/get used to'.

    When the verb 'use' is followed immediately by a voiceless consonant, it may become partially devoiced. This may 'sound' voiceless to some people.

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    #5

    Re: using

    I"m just as likely to say "he yewz to" as "he yoostoo" so the s is voiced for me quite often in "used to."

    Use as a noun is not voiced. Put it to good yoos.
    Use as a verb is voiced. Yewz this.
    Last edited by Barb_D; 02-Nov-2013 at 22:34.
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    #6

    Re: using

    Dear 5jj:

    Thank you for your reply; it' s very interesting.


    Sincerely,



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    Quote Originally Posted by 5jj View Post
    It sounded voiced to me.

    It sounded voiced to me too. She's not got a neutral accent- for example, the way she pronounces verb is far from neutral.

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    #8

    Re: using

    I'm sorry if it's impudent of me to say this, but I'm pretty sure that the "s" in the word "using" in that video is unvoiced.

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    Re: using

    It's not impudent at all. Mistaken, maybe, but not impudent.

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    #10

    Re: using

    Hello everyone,

    Could you listen to the audio clip below?
    I slowed down that “using” part in order to be able to find out whether or not the vocal folds are vibrating during the “s” of the word “using” more easily.
    I believe you will find it very difficult to detect vocal folds vibrations in the “s” because even computer software like Praat and Wavesurfer can’t generate a pitch contour under the “s,” which means that they cannot detect distinct “voice” in there.

    Vocaroo | Voice message

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