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    #1

    Is "Had" and "Red" words with the same pronunciation?

    I would like to know if these words are homophones.

    I also know other homophone words, like for example:
    TO, TWO, TOO / ITS, IT'S / WHERE, WERE, WE'RE / THREE, TREE

    I thank for all replies!
    Last edited by johnnesteixeira; 05-Nov-2013 at 20:45.

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    #2

    Re: Is "Had" and "Red" words with the same pronunciation?

    'Had and red' have different vowels.
    Where and we're have different vowels.
    Three and tree begin with different consonants.

    There are no homophones there.

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    Re: Is "Had" and "Red" words with the same pronunciation?

    Quote Originally Posted by 5jj View Post
    There are no homophones there.
    TO, TWO, TOO / ITS, IT'S / WHERE, WE'RE are homophones to me.

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    #4

    Re: Is "Had" and "Red" words with the same pronunciation?

    Where and we're are not for me. We're is "whee'r"
    Wear, ware, and where are homophones.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: Is "Had" and "Red" words with the same pronunciation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    TO, TWO, TOO / ITS, IT'S / WHERE, WE'RE are homophones to me.
    Where and we're aren't for me. (BrE speaker)
    Last edited by Tdol; 07-Nov-2013 at 15:36. Reason: 'BrE speaker' added

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    #6

    Re: Is "Had" and "Red" words with the same pronunciation?

    I don't consider where and we're to be homophones either. I hear a significant difference.

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    Re: Is "Had" and "Red" words with the same pronunciation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chicken Sandwich View Post
    I don't consider where and we're to be homophones either. I hear a significant difference.
    I said "for me" because it's obvious that a homophone for me might not be a homophone for you. In general AusE, 'where' and 'we're' are homophones. 'They're' is also a homophone for 'their' and 'there' (for me).
    I accept that the majority of native speakers would not consider them homophones, but I wasn't singling this one out; I was merely pointing out that 5jj's "There are no homophones here" might be confusing.
    That brings up an interesting question of "What is a homophone in English?"
    I agree that 'had' and 'red' are obviously not homophones, but maybe there are native speakers with dialects which do pronounce that vowel the same.
    Last edited by Raymott; 07-Nov-2013 at 07:46.

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    Re: Is "Had" and "Red" words with the same pronunciation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    I agree that 'had' and 'red' are obviously not homophones, but maybe there are native speakers with dialects which do pronounce that vowel the same.
    I have hear South Africans with a very flat vowel in 'had' that sounds very close to 'red' to me.

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    Re: Is "Had" and "Red" words with the same pronunciation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    I was merely pointing out that 5jj's "There are no homophones here" might be confusing.
    That brings up an interesting question of "What is a homophone in English?"
    A good point. I should have added '... in my dialect of BrE'.

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    Re: Is "Had" and "Red" words with the same pronunciation?

    Quote Originally Posted by 5jj View Post
    A good point. I should have added '... in my dialect of BrE'.
    So should I. In fact, I cheated and did.

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