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    reduction of relative clauses [present perfect & past perfect]

    Hi,

    1. Relative clause: This is the who broke the window.
    2. Reduced relative clause: The is the man broke the window. ("who" is omitted)

    3. Relative clause: This is the girl who has killed her mother.
    4. Reduced relative clause: ....

    5. Relative clause: This is the girl who had killed her mother.
    6. Reduced relative clause: ....

    Hello,
    As you see in number 2 if we write a reduced form of a relative clause we omit the relative pronoun.
    But what if it's in present or past perfect? How should we rewrite number 4 and 6? I mean should we omit "who"?

    Thank you.

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    Re: reduction of relative clauses [present perfect & past perfect]

    Quote Originally Posted by sb70012 View Post
    1. Relative clause: This is the man who broke the window.
    2. Reduced relative clause: The is the man broke the window. ("who" is omitted) This is not correct.

    3. Relative clause: This is the girl who has killed her mother.
    4. Reduced relative clause: .... You can't reduce this.

    5. Relative clause: This is the girl who had killed her mother.
    6. Reduced relative clause: .... You can't reduce this.
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    Re: reduction of relative clauses [present perfect & past perfect]

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    Thank for explaining 4 and 6 but I didn't understand your meaning for number 2.
    Yes in number one (1) I had forgotten to put "man" but do you mean number 2 like 4 and 6 can not be reduced yes?

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    Re: reduction of relative clauses [present perfect & past perfect]

    Quote Originally Posted by sb70012 View Post
    Thank for explaining 4 and 6 but I didn't understand your meaning for number 2.
    The is the man broke the window. ("who" is omitted) This is not correct.

    It is not right; it is wrong; it is incorrect; it is unnatural English.
    Yes in number one (1) I had forgotten to put "man" but do you mean number 2 like 4 and 6 can not be reduced yes?
    Yes.

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