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    "him" is necessary or not?

    Hello, teachers.

    I've found the following:

    1. He ran so fast that I wasn't able to keep up with him.

    The answer key shows the following as the paraphrase of #1:

    2. He ran too fast for me to keep up with.

    I think #2 is okay, but how about the following?

    3. He ran too fast for me to keep up with him.

    Is #3 unnatural? Is it definitely unacceptable?
    If so, would you mind letting me know why #3 is unnatural?
    If not, would you also mind letting me know why #3 is not so unnatural?

    I'd really appreciate it if you would give me any hint to understand the difference.

    Thank you very much in advance for your help on these.

    yam.

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    Re: "him" is necessary or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by yamyam View Post
    Hello, teachers.

    I've found the following:

    1. He ran so fast that I wasn't able to keep up with him.

    The answer key shows the following as the paraphrase of #1:

    2. He ran too fast for me to keep up with.

    I think #2 is okay, but how about the following?

    3. He ran too fast for me to keep up with him.

    Is #3 unnatural? Is it definitely unacceptable?
    If so, would you mind letting me know why #3 is unnatural?
    If not, would you also mind letting me know why #3 is not so unnatural?

    I'd really appreciate it if you would give me any hint to understand the difference.

    Thank you very much in advance for your help on these.

    yam.
    I don't see anything wrong with #3. The pronoun "him" is the object of the preposition "with". The phrasal verb "keep up" (in this use) is intransitive.
    It can be used alone: "He ran so fast I wasn't able to keep up", or with a prepositional phrase: "He ran so fast I wasn't able to keep up with him".

    The answer key version is marginal, in my opinion. That version leaves "with" just hanging there without an object. You will run across that usage, but I prefer the other two.

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    Re: "him" is necessary or not?

    Thank you very much for the quick reply, MikeNewYork!
    Your instruction is of great help to me.

    Thanks a lot,
    yam

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    Re: "him" is necessary or not?

    The suggested answer is the weakest of the three for me.
    Last edited by 5jj; 20-Nov-2013 at 13:27. Reason: minor typo

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