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    So today I was reading an article about a Typhoon that hit Philippines and I guess the article talking about the actions that happened in the past since its already over, but I faced some clauses in the article that were confused me grammatically as the following:

    1- President Aquino said that millions of people, who had been affected by the storm, needed help
    2- The local hospitals have all been destroyed.
    3- Some of those who died have been buried in mass graves.
    4- Tens of thousands of farms have been badly damaged.
    5- Large coconut and banana plantations have been destroyed.
    6- The rescue operations have been badly managed.

    My question is why the using of "been" since all the sentences are in Past Perfect tense.

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    Re: Need Help In Grammer

    Quote Originally Posted by AhmedMelibary View Post
    So today I was reading an article about a Typhoon that hit Philippines and I guess the article talking about the actions that happened in the past since its already over, but I faced some clauses in the article that were confused me grammatically as the following:

    1- President Aquino said that millions of people, who had been affected by the storm, needed help
    2- The local hospitals have all been destroyed.
    3- Some of those who died have been buried in mass graves.
    4- Tens of thousands of farms have been badly damaged.
    5- Large coconut and banana plantations have been destroyed.
    6- The rescue operations have been badly managed.

    My question is why the using of "been" since all the sentences are in Past Perfect tense.

    Many Thanks for Responding.
    How would you write them?

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    Re: Need Help In Grammer

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    How would you write them?
    well I know the past perfect form like this: had + past participle so the sentences should be like this:
    1- President Aquino said that millions of people, who had affected by the storm, needed help.
    2- The local hospitals had all destroyed.
    3- Some of those who died had buried in mass graves.
    4- Tens of thousands of farms had badly damaged.
    5- Large coconut and banana plantations had destroyed.
    6- The rescue operations had badly managed.

    from my understanding "been" resulting an ing to the verbs.

    Correct me if I am wrong.
    Last edited by AhmedMelibary; 24-Nov-2013 at 22:26.

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    Re: Need Help In Grammer

    Quote Originally Posted by AhmedMelibary View Post
    well I know the past perfect form like this: had + past participle so the sentences should be like this:
    1- President Aquino said that millions of people, who had affected by the storm, needed help.
    2- The local hospitals had all destroyed.
    3- Some of those who died had buried in mass graves.
    4- Tens of thousands of farms had badly damaged.
    5- Large coconut and banana plantations had destroyed.
    6- The rescue operations had badly managed.

    from my understanding "been" resulting an ing to the verbs.

    Correct me if I am wrong.
    All of these are wrong.The sentences are all in the passive. That requires a form of "to be."


    The storm affected millions of people. He said "Million were affected by the storm." He said that millions had been affected by the storm.
    The storm destroyed the local hospitals. He said "The hospitals were destroyed by the storm." He said that the hospitals had all be destroyed.
    The storm destroyed plantations. ... Plantations had been destroyed.
    Etc.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: Need Help In Grammer

    Please remember that the word is Grammar.

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    Re: Need Help In Grammer

    Quote Originally Posted by AhmedMelibary View Post
    My question is why the using of "been" since all the sentences are in Past Perfect tense.
    Only 1 is past perfect- the others are all present perfect, which is used because the effect of the actions is still felt now. 1 is past perfect because it is indirect (reported) speech. President Aquino originally used the present perfect.

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