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    A simple yes-no question

    Do you agree that "do" followed by an object can be used also as a pro-verb instead of only as an action verb?

    Perhaps majority opinions can invalidate those of qualified teachers who disagree.

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    Re: A simple yes-no question

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Wai View Post
    Do you agree that "do" followed by an object can be used also as a pro-verb instead of only as an action verb?

    Perhaps majority opinions can invalidate those of qualified teachers who disagree.
    Can you provide examples? It has been my experience that many grammar arguments are based on differences in terminology rather than on substance.
    Last edited by Rover_KE; 04-Dec-2013 at 08:48. Reason: Fixing typo

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    Re: A simple yes-no question

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork View Post
    Can you provide examples?
    Click here to see the opinion (as an example) of an administrator here, please scroll up to read the original sentence.
    In order to avert the improper analogy (which is beside the point), I would change the sentence to
    "Peter advises, supports and subsidizes John at present as Mary did to Jane in the past."
    Can "to" be deleted grammatically?

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    Re: A simple yes-no question

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Wai View Post
    Click here to see the opinion (as an example) of an administrator here, please scroll up to read the original sentence.
    In order to avert the improper analogy (which is beside the point), I would change the sentence to
    "Peter advises, supports and subsidizes John at present as Mary did to Jane in the past."
    Can "to" be deleted grammatically?
    I wouldn't use "to" there. I would probably use "for", but I'd say it's possible with "as Mary did Jane in the past".

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    Re: A simple yes-no question

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Wai View Post
    Click here to see the opinion (as an example) of an administrator here, please scroll up to read the original sentence.
    In order to avert the improper analogy (which is beside the point), I would change the sentence to
    "Peter advises, supports and subsidizes John at present as Mary did to Jane in the past."
    Can "to" be deleted grammatically?
    To be honest, I find the sentence terribly awkward no matter what is done with it.

    I would not use "to" and I would not use it without a preposition. If I had to choose one it would be "for".

    However, I would rewrite the sentence. ""Peter currently advises, supports and subsidizes John, as Mary once did for Jane."

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    Re: A simple yes-no question

    "Peter antagonized, opposed and obstructed John as Mary did against Jane."

    Is it proper to use "against"? I hope you are not fed up with my repetitive questions.

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    Re: A simple yes-no question

    It is not proper to use 'against' unless the first part of the sentence did, too.

    'Chelsea battled hard against Arsenal as did Sunderland against Newcastle.'

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    Re: A simple yes-no question

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Wai View Post
    Click here to see the opinion (as an example) of an administrator here, please scroll up to read the original sentence.
    In order to avert the improper analogy (which is beside the point), I would change the sentence to
    "Peter advises, supports and subsidizes John at present as Mary did to Jane in the past."
    Can "to" be deleted grammatically?
    I am not sure what you think my opinion is meant to be, but 'as what butchers do to poultry' is wrong, so I don't see how you can synthesise my unexpressed view from it.

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    Re: A simple yes-no question

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork View Post
    ...However, I would rewrite the sentence. ""Peter currently advises, supports and subsidizes John, as Mary once did for Jane."
    Does Rover_KE also deem it improper to use "for" in MikeNewYork's above revised sentence because the first part of it contains no "for"?

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    Re: A simple yes-no question

    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    I am not sure what you think my opinion is meant to be...
    Tdol told me that "If you use just as butchers do poultry, it would make better sense". Since "do" is followed by "poultry", so I guess his opinion is that "do" followed by an object can be used as a pro-verb, which is relevant to my original question in this thread.
    Last edited by Matthew Wai; 05-Dec-2013 at 06:46.

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