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    deceit vs deception?

    What is the difference between deceit and deception?
    He was accused of lies and deceit.
    He was found guilty of obtaining money by deception.


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    Re: deceit vs deception?

    Quote Originally Posted by needer View Post
    What is the difference between deceit and deception?
    He was accused of lies and deceit.
    He was found guilty of obtaining money by deception.
    Please give correct information in your profile.

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    Re: deceit vs deception?

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    What is the difference between deceit and deception?
    He was accused of lies and deceit.
    He was found guilty of obtaining money by deception.
    There isn't a big difference. Here are a few opinions:
    differences - deceit vs deception - English Language & Usage Stack Exchange

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    Re: deceit vs deception?

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    There isn't a big difference. Here are a few opinions:
    differences - deceit vs deception - English Language & Usage Stack Exchange
    Well, that explanation was helpful but not clear enough for me.
    Are they interchangeable?

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    Re: deceit vs deception?

    Quote Originally Posted by needer View Post
    Well, that explanation was helpful but not clear enough for me.
    Are they interchangeable?
    "obtaining money by deception" is a standard phrase, you can't substitute "deceit" for "deception".

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    Re: deceit vs deception?

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    "obtaining money by deception" is a standard phrase, you can't substitute "deceit" for "deception".
    Yes, and you certainly can't substitute their adjectives - 'deceitful' for 'deceptive'. It might be easier to approach the difference via these.

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    Re: deceit vs deception?

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    Yes, and you certainly can't substitute their adjectives - 'deceitful' for 'deceptive'. It might be easier to approach the difference via these.
    Their adjectives are more distinguishable. but the two nouns still a bit difficult to tell.
    Last edited by needer; 20-Dec-2013 at 08:12.

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    Re: deceit vs deception?

    Quote Originally Posted by needer View Post
    THeir adjectives are more distinguishables. but the two nouns are still a bit difficult to tell.
    I know; that will always be the case with English having so many near-synonyms. And it will always be a bit difficult to explain how some words are used differently. Obviously, to us natives, the difference has come through experience and, more often than not, never really thought about.

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    Re: deceit vs deception?

    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    I know; that will always be the case with English having so many near-synonyms. And it will always be a bit difficult to explain how some words are used differently. Obviously, to us natives, the difference has come through experience and, more often than not, never really thought about.
    So by which, you mean I shouldn't be more fussy about these two. I just wanted to know if there is an academic explanation for their difference or I must gain it by the matter of collocation.
    Thank you anyway!

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    Re: deceit vs deception?

    Quote Originally Posted by needer View Post
    So by which, you mean I shouldn't be more fussy about these two. I just wanted to know if there is an academic explanation for their difference or I must gain it by the matter of collocation.
    Thank you anyway!
    No, by which I mean that someone (say, an academic) can always make up an academic explanation from their experience and some thought, but whether that explanation actually represents the real reason that others consider two words to be different also needs to be considered. The reason I originally directed you to a discussion that had already been held is that I didn't have an obvious answer, and that this discussion would illustrate that there is no obvious answer. But that by coming back with "that explanation was helpful but not clear enough for me", you might tempt an academic to try to provide a better explanation.

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