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    #1

    he not be...

    From a UK newspaper article:
    A judge mistakenly ordered that he not be identified to protect the victim.

    Is this correct in both UK and American English?

    Thank you

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    #2

    Re: he not be...

    It's correct in BrE, but rather formal.

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    #3

    Re: he not be...

    Quote Originally Posted by MooCow View Post
    From a UK newspaper article:
    A judge mistakenly ordered that he not be identified to protect the victim.

    Is this correct in both UK and American English?

    Thank you
    It could be helpful if I knew what made OP think it might be incorrect.


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    #4

    Re: he not be...

    I'm not very familiar with the formality of English. I'd understand it had it been written as "that he may not be identified..."

    I just never heard people say "I wish he not be sold a book." or something like that.

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    #5

    Re: he not be...

    As well as being the infinitive form of the verb BE, be is also the present subjunctive form. This form is now normally used in BrE only in very formal contexts. Many people don't use it at all.
    Last edited by Tdol; 10-Jan-2014 at 13:53. Reason: Typo

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    #6

    Re: he not be...

    Sounds perfectly fine to me.

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    #7

    Re: he not be...

    Quote Originally Posted by Odessa Dawn View Post
    It could be helpful if I knew what made OP think it might be incorrect.

    Well, some native speakers might think it's incorrect. It's an uncommon pattern.

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    #8

    Re: he not be...

    To expand on my reason, it sounds similar to the broken English I often encounter when communicating with my Asian friends. For example, "he not happy" or "I now home".

    Thank you all.

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    #9

    Re: he not be...

    Quote Originally Posted by MooCow View Post
    To expand on my reason, it sounds similar to the broken English I often encounter when communicating with my Asian friends. For example, "he not happy" or "I now home".

    Thank you all.
    It is nothing like that. It is perfectly acceptable English, particularly in AmE. I prefer that he not go there. His father demanded that he not participate. This construction is possible after certain verbs.

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    #10

    Re: he not be...

    Quote Originally Posted by MooCow View Post
    From a UK newspaper article
    Out of interest, which newspaper is it from?

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