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    He is a messy boy/man/person

    Can I say so about a person whose room is always a mess (with things scattered around)?
    If I were a native speaker of English, I would never shut up. :-)

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    Re: He is a messy boy/man/person

    Quote Originally Posted by englishhobby View Post
    Can I say so about a person whose room is always a mess (with things scattered around)?
    Not really. Calling someone a "messy person" implies that characteristic is true in all aspects of his life. A person can have an organized office and be an impeccable dresser while having a messy room in his house.

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    Re: He is a messy boy/man/person

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork View Post
    Not really. Calling someone a "messy person" implies that characteristic is true in all aspects of his life. A person can have an organized office and be an impeccable dresser while having a messy room in his house.
    Is there a colloquial word for "disorganised" then (to use it instead of "messy")?
    And can one use messy about a person to describe his appearance at a particular moment with the meaning "not clean or tidy"? E.g. You look so messy (after the cleaning).
    If I were a native speaker of English, I would never shut up. :-)

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    Re: He is a messy boy/man/person

    I think the chances are that someone who has a messy room probably does also have a messy work desk etc so I have no problem calling them a messy person.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: He is a messy boy/man/person

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    I think the chances are that someone who has a messy room probably does also have a messy work desk etc so I have no problem calling them a messy person.
    I always had a perfectly organized desk and some messy rooms.

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    Re: He is a messy boy/man/person

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork View Post
    I always had a perfectly organized desk and some messy rooms.
    There is a kind of mess, especially on one's desk which we call in my language "working mess" (when the books and papers you need to do some particular work are scattered on your desk, but you need each of them every minute (or hour), so you couldn't do without this "mess" to do the work). This expression "justifies" mess a little, it's a kind of "good mess" (I have this kind of mess on my desk at the moment ). Do you have some word to describe this kind of mess?
    If I were a native speaker of English, I would never shut up. :-)

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    Re: He is a messy boy/man/person

    Quote Originally Posted by englishhobby View Post
    There is a kind of mess, especially on one's desk which we call in my language "working mess" (when the books and papers you need to do some particular work are scattered on your desk, but you need each of them every minute (or hour), so you couldn't do without this "mess" to do the work). This expression "justifies" mess a little, it's a kind of "good mess" (I have this kind of mess on my desk at the moment ). Do you have some word to describe this kind of mess?
    Organised chaos.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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