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  1. Yourjones
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    traffic light

    Hi, these are typical traffic lights. Can you help explain in SPOKEN English:

    1. when we can only go straight, but can not turn to the left;
    2. when we can only turn to the left but can not go straight.

    Thank you so much for your patience.
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    Re: traffic light

    You have the right of way to turn left when there is a green arrow. When there is just the solid green light, you may turn left if there is no oncoming traffic. (Unless some sign directs you to only turn when you have the arrow.)

    If you are traveling straight, you may go through whenever it is green, whether there is an arrow or not.

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    Re: traffic light

    I guess I would have a lot of angry American motorists beeping their horns behind me.
    In Europe you're not allowed to turn if the arrow is not green, oncoming traffic or not.
    I would wait.
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    Re: traffic light

    If you are in a left turn only lane with its own signal, then it would give you a green arrow when you have right of way. It would give you a red light when you are not allowed to turn. If there is a solid green that stays on after the green arrow disappears, then you can go when it is safe.

    In a lot of cases there is a sign that says "Yield to oncoming traffic on (green circle)."

    But that is the default way I would read a green light. Would you really not turn left if your lane had a green light?

    The solid signals in the picture above would have no purpose if the absence of a green arrow prohibited turning.

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    Re: traffic light

    Quote Originally Posted by PeterValk View Post
    In Europe you're not allowed to turn if the arrow is not green, oncoming traffic or not.
    That's not what it says here:

    Brian's Guide to Getting Around Germany - German Traffic Signs & Signals (Page 2 of 2)

    Just as in the other cases, the green arrow indicates a protected left turn. If the arrow is off, then obey the signals for through traffic and yield to oncoming traffic when turning left.

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    Re: traffic light

    Or this:

    A full green signal without any arrows (like in Figure 1 above) usually means you may travel straight ahead or make a right or left turn unless otherwise prohibited by signs.

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    Re: traffic light

    Quote Originally Posted by PeterValk View Post
    In Europe you're not allowed to turn if the arrow is not green, oncoming traffic or not.
    In the UK you are, provided it is safe to do so.

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    Re: traffic light

    "A full green signal without any arrows (like in Figure 1 above) usually means you may travel straight ahead or make a right or left turn unless otherwise prohibited by signs."

    That's the same as it is in Holland and here in Russia.
    But the difference is that we are not allowed to turn left or right when there is an arrow, but it's not lit.

    Maybe I've overlooked some new traffic rules?
    I've had my license for almost thirty years now, so things might have changed.
    I will look into it.
    Peter
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    Re: traffic light

    not a teacher

    But the difference is that we are not allowed to turn left or right when there is an arrow, but it's not lit.

    In Australia, if the green arrow goes off and leaves the full green on, then you can go ahead or turn if it's safe to do so.
    If you are not allowed to turn while the full green is on but the green arrow is not, then a red arrow will come on.
    In the illustration, it appears that there is possibly a red arrow above the green arrow and that this might come on to indicate when turns are not allowed once the green arrow goes off.

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    Re: traffic light

    Obviously, these are not typical traffic lights.
    Last edited by 5jj; 25-Jan-2014 at 17:12. Reason: off-topic material deleted
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