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    Urgent: educational/educative/bringing-up

    Dear forumers,

    I've been assigned to translate a number of annotations for articles that are going to be published in foreign journals.

    Here is what I've got this time. This particular article is about preventive measures against drug abuse by at-risk teenagers. Right after the annotation, there are a few keywords. One of them is "учебно-воспитательный процесс". Basically, literally this means "the educational-bringing-up process", i.e. the process of educating and bringing up children at school.

    Some sources say there is no need to use "bringing-up". So does the word "educational" already have that meaning? Can I just write "the educational process" and will native speakers get it?

    Thank you in advance.

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    Re: Urgent: educational/educative/bringing-up

    I'd say "the education process" (rather than "educational"). However, that refers only to education and not to bringing them up. I can't think of a term which encompasses both.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: Urgent: educational/educative/bringing-up

    So if you, for instance, wanted to read this article and saw "education process" provided as a keyword, would you automatically think of not just teaching children various subjects but also teaching them how to behave?

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    Re: Urgent: educational/educative/bringing-up

    Basically, I just need to know if something like "education-bringingup process" would sound acceptable.

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    Re: Urgent: educational/educative/bringing-up

    Not really, no.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: Urgent: educational/educative/bringing-up

    Quote Originally Posted by Bennevis View Post
    So if you, for instance, wanted to read this article and saw "education process" provided as a keyword, would you automatically think of not just teaching children various subjects but also teaching them how to behave?
    No, I wouldn't consider that the education process covers behavioural aspects.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: Urgent: educational/educative/bringing-up

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    I'd say "the education process" (rather than "educational"). However, that refers only to education and not to bringing them up. I can't think of a term which encompasses both.
    This is one of those grey areas we, Russian-to-English translators, have to deal with on a regular basis. Another one is "developments" - something, like software, that has been developed (I, most of the time, just say "solutions").

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    Re: Urgent: educational/educative/bringing-up

    emsr2d2, I really appreciate your willingness to help me with this. We might coin a new phrase with you right now. What is your final suggestion?

    the education-? process

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    Re: Urgent: educational/educative/bringing-up

    I honestly wouldn't hyphenate anything. We don't even have a single for "bringing up children". Development is what the child does, it's not the process of actually bringing a child up, which incorporates teaching them how to behave properly, how to be polite, how to dress themselves, how to use the toilet, to encourage them to read and write and to get them educated at a suitable establishment.

    Do you really have to have a "xxx-xxx process" phrase?
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    Re: Urgent: educational/educative/bringing-up

    Yes, hyphenation can be avoided through "and".

    How does this sound to you:

    "the education and upbringing process"

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