[Grammar] grammar book says noun clauses can be replaced singular third person pronouns,then

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My grammar book says noun clauses can be replaced singular third person pronouns,then,are these sentences correct?
A. Listen to what I am saying.
B. I am not afraid of who you are talking about.
C. I am talking to who you hate most.
I know how to write these sentences correctly with other way but,I want to know it's correct or not.
If these sentences are incorrect then,please explain the reason briefly.

Can we use noun clauses after all transitive verbs as direct and indirect objects and after all preposition as a object. of prepositions please explain about it.thank you.
 

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My grammar book says noun clauses can be replaced singular third person pronouns,then,are these sentences correct?
A. Listen to what I am saying.
B. I am not afraid of who you are talking about.
C. I am talking to who you hate most.
I know how to write these sentences correctly with other way but,I want to know it's correct or not.
If these sentences are incorrect then,please explain the reason briefly.

Can we use noun clauses after all transitive verbs as direct and indirect objects and after all preposition as a object. of prepositions please explain about it.thank you.

Your grammar book is correct. A noun phrase or a noun clause can replace a noun/pronoun as a direct object/prepositional object.

A. Correct
B. Technically, "who" should be "whom" because it is the object of the preposition "about".
C. Technically, "who" should be "whom" because it is the object of the verb "hate".
 

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These sentences sound not good. Are these sentences correct?
A. Explain what is going on to me.I replaced "what is going on"with it.explain it to me.
B. Tell whoever comes here first a story.
C. This is the advantage of what I said to my boss yesterday.
d. It will be my reaction to whoever wins the match.
e. It is a good lesson for whoever wants to give up smoking.
Please help.
 

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My grammar book says noun clauses can be replaced singular third person pronouns,then,are these sentences correct?
My grammar book says noun clauses can be replaced by singular third person pronouns. If that is so, then are these sentences correct?

A. Listen to what I am saying.
B. I am not afraid of who you are talking about.
C. I am talking to who you hate most.


[A] is fine.
is possible informally, but I'd use the person/man/woman/etc . Who on its own does not really replace the person who.
[C] does not sound natural to me at all.
 

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Please check my understandings about noun clauses and clear my confusion.

These are the noun clauses that replace pronouns of things like it,them and other nouns of things like mountain, pen etc.
a. What I am saying.
B. What it looks like.
C. What the answer is.
D.what you know.
E. What I believe.
These noun clauses can be replaced by 'it'.

The following sentences below are the noun clauses that can be replaced with the pronouns of person like
me,him,her etc.

A.who you are.
B. Whoever he is.
C. Whom you hate most.
d. Who comes first.
E. Whom you are talking to.
These noun clauses can be replaced by pronouns of person her,him,me etc.

Then, is this process correct to use noun clauses in sentences.
a. I am talking to her.
now I am going to replace a noun clause "whom you hate most".the sentence is going to like,
a.I am talking to whom you hate most.

Again,I am going to replace a noun clause "what you are saying " with pronoun 'it's.
a. I am listening to it.
It is going to be like,
A. I am listening to what you are saying.

This is my understanding .if I am wrong somewhere please help me. Please.
 

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Please somebody answer. please please...
 

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Please somebody answer. please please...
Is there any point?

I wrote to you in another thread on this topic: "Note that what can have a similar meaning to that which, and whoever can have a similar meaning to any person who. Note the two ideas in the meaning. Who has only one idea in it. It cannot be subject and object simultaneously."

I wrote to you in post #4 of this thread: "Who on its own does not really replace the person who."

And yet still you say: "Then, is this process correct to use noun clauses in sentences.
a. I am talking to her.
now I am going to replace a noun clause "whom you hate most".the sentence is going to like,
a.I am talking to whom you hate most."
 
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