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    Doubts in Shakespeare's sonetto 18

    Hello,
    I have some grammar doubts in sonetto 18 of Shakespeare.

    1) In the phrase:

    Nor lose possession of that fair thou ow’st

    Are they two phrases or only one?
    What "of that fair" is? Is it a Prepositional Phrase or a Prepositional Object?


    2) In the phrase:

    So long lives this and this gives life to thee
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    What are "life" and "to thee"?
    Is "life" an Indirect Object and is "to thee" a Prepositional Direct Object?


    Tks in advance

    G.

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    Re: Doubts in Shakespeare's sonetto 18

    Quote Originally Posted by Gianluigi Salin View Post
    Hello,
    I have some grammar doubts in sonetto 18 of Shakespeare.

    1) In the phrase:

    Nor lose possession of that fair thou ow’st

    Are they two phrases or only one?
    What "of that fair" is? Is it a Prepositional Phrase or a Prepositional Object?


    2) In the phrase:

    So long lives this and this gives life to thee
    .

    What are "life" and "to thee"?
    Is "life" an Indirect Object and is "to thee" a Prepositional Direct Object?


    Tks in advance

    G.
    You will find both phrases explained here: Analysis of Shakespeare's Sonnet 18 - Shall I Compare Thee to a Summer's Day

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    Re: Doubts in Shakespeare's sonetto 18

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork View Post
    Ok tks.
    Maybe I was not clear.
    I asked what these elements are GRAMMATICALLY.
    I already studied the meaning and the semantic of the sonetto (and I have already found that page), now I need to analize its grammar.

    Tks for the reply however.

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    Re: Doubts in Shakespeare's sonetto 18

    Quote Originally Posted by Gianluigi Salin View Post
    OK thanks.
    Maybe I was not clear.
    I asked what these elements are GRAMMATICALLY.
    I already studied the meaning and the semantic of the sonetto (and I have already found that page), now I need to analize its grammar.

    Thanks for the reply however.
    Please use English words on this forum, not "chatlish" abbreviations.

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    Re: Doubts in Shakespeare's sonetto 18

    Quote Originally Posted by Gianluigi Salin View Post
    Nor lose possession of that fair thou ow’st
    This means, "Nor to lose everything that makes you beautiful" or "everything beautiful you own."

    The second one means, "this makes you live [that long / forever]."

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    Re: Doubts in Shakespeare's sonetto 18

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork View Post
    I beg to differ. That page doesn't parse the poem. It explains the meaning of the poem; it doesn't say whether 'to thee' is a "Prepositional Direct Object".

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    Re: Doubts in Shakespeare's sonetto 18

    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    I beg to differ. That page doesn't parse the poem. It explains the meaning of the poem; it doesn't say whether 'to thee' is a "Prepositional Direct Object".
    My post said "explained", so you are not really disagreeing. The first place to start with parsing is understanding the meaning. If you want to parse it, please go ahead and do so.

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