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    DIRECT AND INDIRECT SPEECH

    My question is

    Why is reporting verb always in simple past, simple present or simple future?

    Ram said, " i have taken food".

    Answer is : -- Ram said that he had taken food.

    Now, the questions are

    Ram had said, " I have taken food"
    or
    Ram has said, " I have taken food"

    Are these questions valid? What are the formula of changing tense in reported speech if the tense in reporting verb is present prefect, or present continuous ?

    For example : Ram is saying " I have taken food"



    Nabadip Chakravarty

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    Re: DIRECT AND INDIRECT SPEECH

    Quote Originally Posted by NABADIP View Post
    Now, the questions are

    Ram had said, " I have taken food"
    or
    Ram has said, " I have taken food"

    Are these questions valid? What are the formula of changing tense in reported speech if the tense in reporting verb is present prefect, or present continuous ?
    You're mixing up the two verbs in the sentence. It's two different issues.
    Ram said, " I have taken food".
    Just because Ram uses a perfect tense in his sentence doesn't mean you have to use one to report it. The reported version is "Ram said that he had taken food."
    Also, the reporting verb is sometimes in the perfect form if that is appropriate.
    "Because Ram had said he had taken food, I began to wonder if he was a thief." (Note that "taking food" rarely means "eating". I'm assuming here that he stole it.)
    Last edited by 5jj; 07-Mar-2014 at 10:48. Reason: QUOTE shortened

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    Re: DIRECT AND INDIRECT SPEECH

    Although you mention reported and indirect speech, Nabadip Chakravarty, there are no examples in your post.

    "Ram said, "I have eaten". This is how we write direct speech.
    Ram said (that) he has/had eaten. This is how we write indirect/reported speech.
    Last edited by Tdol; 07-Mar-2014 at 17:09. Reason: typo

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    Re: DIRECT AND INDIRECT SPEECH

    I am not a teacher

    In Raymtt's example, the indirect speech changes tense.

    In 5jj's example, the indirect speech does not change tense.

    Would you explain why?

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    Re: DIRECT AND INDIRECT SPEECH

    Quote Originally Posted by bigC View Post
    I am not a teacher

    In Raymtt's example, the indirect speech changes tense.

    In 5jj's example, the indirect speech does not change tense.

    Would you explain why?
    Backshifting in reported speech is not always necessary but it's always correct.

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    Re: DIRECT AND INDIRECT SPEECH

    Quote Originally Posted by bhaisahab View Post
    Backshifting in reported speech is not always necessary but it's always correct.
    John: My father lives in London.
    1. John said that his father lives in London.
    2. John said that his father lived in London

    Which of the above reported speech is more common in conversation?

    Thanks.

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    Re: DIRECT AND INDIRECT SPEECH

    They are equally common.
    Last edited by 5jj; 08-Mar-2014 at 00:36. Reason: non-essentail QUOTE deleted

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    Re: DIRECT AND INDIRECT SPEECH

    Quote Originally Posted by bigC View Post
    I am not a teacher

    In 5jj's example, the indirect speech does not change tense.

    Would you explain why?
    Hello, bigC.
    If you are referring to 5jj's "Ram said (that) he has/has eaten.", then it's just a small typo.
    (The second has should have been had - backshifting.)

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    Re: DIRECT AND INDIRECT SPEECH

    I have changed has to had.

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    Re: DIRECT AND INDIRECT SPEECH

    I am not a teacher

    "John said that his father lived in London".

    Does this sentence imply that John's father no longer live in London when John said.

    If "yes", then it deviates in meaning from the original direct speech, "John: My father lives in London."

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