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    #1

    I have visited Kyoto twice.

    Hello.

    I have a question as to the usage of the present perfect.
    If I understand it correctly, it is not used with specific time expressions.

    Please look at the sentence below.

    I have visited Kyoto twice.

    I understand it's grammatically correct.
    However, I'm not sure about the one below:

    I have visited Kyoto twice - in 1985 and 1986.

    Is it acceptable or should it be "I visited Kyoto twice in 1985 and 1986."?

    Thank you.

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    #2

    Re: I have visited Kyoto twice.

    The original is fine.

    "I visited Kyoto twice in 1985 and 1986" would suggest to me that the speaker had been to Kyoto four times - twice in 1985 and twice in 1986.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    #3

    Re: I have visited Kyoto twice.

    Thank you, ems.

    Do you mean "I have visited Kyoto twice - in 1985 and 1986" when you say 'the original'?

    Thank you again.

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    #4

    Re: I have visited Kyoto twice.

    Yes.

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    #5

    Re: I have visited Kyoto twice.

    The dash between I have visited Kyoto twice and in 1985 and 1986 is sufficient to separate the two thoughts. What you cannot write is I have visited Kyoto twice in 1985 and 1986.

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    #6

    Re: I have visited Kyoto twice.

    As a follow-up to my post #5, I would note that you may hear people say such things as I have visited Kyoto twice in 1985 and 1986. When we are speaking informally, we do not consciously plan what we are going to say. We start an utterance, and then the words just come out. Once having started with I have visited Kyoto twice, the speaker may suddenly think of the two occasions and go on to mention them. There will not necessarily even be a pause, the spoken equivalent of a written dash. It is very unlikely that a native-speaking listener, even a grammarian, would be aware of anything wrong.

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    #7

    Re: I have visited Kyoto twice.

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    "I visited Kyoto twice in 1985 and 1986" would suggest to me that the speaker had been to Kyoto four times - twice in 1985 and twice in 1986.
    Will this suggestion be eliminated if "totally" is added before "twice"?

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    #8

    Re: I have visited Kyoto twice.

    I am not a teacher

    In order to avoid confusion.

    Can I write "I have visited Kyoto in 1985 and 1986 once each year"

    Since time is mentioned, do you think it is more grammatical to write "I visited Kyoto in 1985 and 1986 once each year".

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    #9

    Re: I have visited Kyoto twice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Wai View Post
    Will this suggestion be eliminated if "totally" is added before "twice"?
    No. "totally" has no place anywhere in that sentence. Perhaps you meant "in total". If that's the case, it could be added after "twice".

    I have visited Kyoto twice in total - in 1985 and 1986.

    "In total" does not work in the sentence that starts "I visited".
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    #10

    Re: I have visited Kyoto twice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Wai View Post
    Will this suggestion be eliminated if "totally" is added before "twice"?
    No.

    You could say:

    I visited Kyoto twice in total, in 1985 and 1986.
    I visited Kyoto twice altogether, in 1985 and 1986
    .

    You could just say: I visited Kyoto in 1985 and 1986. The normal assumption will be that you visited on one occasion in each year,

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