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    ACTRESS BEATS CANCER

    ACTRESS BEATS CANCER

    During a routine annual checkup early last year, lumps were observed in her left breast. After going through an operation, she had had six cysts removed, but not that one of them turned up to be a cancerous lump.

    The above is from our local newspaper.

    I don't understand the last sentence. Does the actress have cancer? Thanks.

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    "Not that one of them" is incorrect. It should be "not one of them."

    If none of the lumps removed were, in fact, cancerous, then she did not "beat cancer." She had a "cancer scare."

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    I am not a teacher.

    There appear to be a couple of typos in your post.
    If the sentence is actually, "After going through an operation she had six cysts removed, but not one of them turned out to be a cancerous lump." then it means that she doesn't have cancer now, and didn't have it before the operation either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roman55 View Post
    I am not a teacher.

    There appear to be a couple of typos in your post.
    If the sentence is actually, "After going through an operation she had six cysts removed, but not one of them turned out to be a cancerous lump." then it means that she doesn't have cancer now, and didn't have it before the operation either.
    Thanks, Roman.

    The typos are not mine. I have reproduced the sentences as they appear in the newspaper.

    After going through an operation, she had had six cysts removed, but not (that) one of them turned up to be a cancerous lump.

    I wonder whether had had is correct. Should it be just had?

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    #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Tan Elaine View Post
    Thanks, Roman.

    The typos are not mine. I have reproduced the sentences as they appear in the newspaper.

    After going through an operation, she had had six cysts removed, but not (that) one of them turned up to be a cancerous lump.

    I wonder whether had had is correct. Should it be just had?
    Neither one makes complete sense. I very much doubt that she had the cysts removed after the operation.

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    Okay, I did some looking around on the Internet.
    She had six cysts removed. One of them actually was cancerous. She went on to have chemo. She has now beaten the cancer.

    She told people about the cysts, but not about the cancer (at that time).
    We are now talking about a statement she made before - hence the past pefect.
    She said she had had six cysts removed, but not that one of them was a tumor. = She omitted the information about the tumor.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Thanks, Bhaisahab.

    After going through an operation, she had had six cysts removed, but not (that) one of them turned up to be a cancerous lump.

    I think the sentence should be: "While undergoing an operation, she had six cysts removed, but not one of them turned up to be a cancerous lump."

    Do you agree? Or would you phrase it differently?

    PS Barb posted before I did.
    Last edited by Tan Elaine; 17-Mar-2014 at 20:09.

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    I am not a teacher.

    This has suddenly become a lot clearer.

    The problem comes from the fact that the original article appears to be a newspaper report and not a quote from the actress.
    Pretty sloppy editing I'd say.

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    #9
    Indeed. Insert "she said" or even "she had said" after the word "operation" and we would have had total clarity.

    In short, she hid her cancer under the guise of more routine surgery until now.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    #10
    Following Barb's search on the Internet, I also looked up in Google and found the following.

    SINGAPORE: Singapore actress Pan Ling Ling recently revealed that she had breast cancer, but said the cancer is now in remission after she underwent treatment for it.

    Pan told web portal xinmsn that she found out she had breast cancer in March last year, and decided to undergo surgery to remove six malignant growths.

    Looks like TODAY has done its readers a disservice by reporting "During a routine annual checkup early last year, lumps were observed in her left breast. After going through an operation, she had had six cysts removed, but not (that) one of them turned up to be a cancerous lump. (It is a total distortion of the truth.)
    Last edited by Tan Elaine; 17-Mar-2014 at 20:26.

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