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    Why don't we say: I wish I would have more friends.

    Why don't we say: I wish I would have more friends. ( I know that: "I wish I had more friends" is correct from both syntax and semantic viewpoints.)

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    Re: Why don't we say: I wish I would have more friends.

    AmE seems to use the "wish" + "would" quite frequently. In BrE, only "I wish I had ..." is used.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: Why don't we say: I wish I would have more friends.

    So, I wish I would have more friends is not grammatically wrong. Thank you!

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    Re: Why don't we say: I wish I would have more friends.

    I wish I would have more friends​ is not correct British English.

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    Re: Why don't we say: I wish I would have more friends.

    I am not a teacher.

    Yes, one does come across this in AmE but not necessarily from educated speakers. I think it is wrong, and certainly consider it to be wrong in BrE.

    If there is an educated AmE speaker who can explain that it is not wrong, I would be more than interested.

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    Re: Why don't we say: I wish I would have more friends.

    In talking about a past action (or non-action) we might say "I wish I would have known that" or "I wish I would have folded holding that full house."

    I think most of us would agree that "I wish I had known that" or "I wish I had folded" is standard, but it's so common that I can't say it's wrong.

    However, note that this is about an action. "I wish I would have more friends" doesn't work.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: Why don't we say: I wish I would have more friends.

    I'd quite like to play poker with Barb if she folds when she's got a full house!
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: Why don't we say: I wish I would have more friends.

    I believe it's wrong, even though it's used in AmE. There is a correct meaning for "I wish I would have more friends" and similar sentences, but it's not "I wish I had more friends."
    "Would" is a conditional. There is no conditional in "I wish I had more friends", and introducing "would" needs explaining. It's hard to think of an example of a conditional with those exact words, but it means "I wish I would have more friends - if some condition prevailed."

    It's a similar error to the more common "I wish I would have known". (I wish I had known). "I wish she would have loved me more" (I wish she had loved me more). The use of the conditional for a straight indicative sentence wouldn't be so objectionable if the conditional sentence didn't already have a meaning which is being usurped.

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    #9

    Re: Why don't we say: I wish I would have more friends.

    I wouldn't use "I wish I have more friends" or "I wish I would have more friends". But "I wish I had more friends" is subjunctive (hypothetical) just because of the tense shift. This all depends on how one reads "had". The analogy is "I wish I was prettier" versus "I wish I were prettier". If one wanted to refer to past time, one could say "I wish I would have had more friends" or "I wish I had had more friends".

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    Re: Why don't we say: I wish I would have more friends.

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    I'd quite like to play poker with Barb if she folds when she's got a full house!
    (I was describing a scene I'd just seen on TV when the opponent ended up with four of a kind.)
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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