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    Animal with the sound [ʒ] as in pleasure

    Could you please name an animal with this sound in its name?
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    Re: Animal with the sound [ʒ] as in pleasure

    Why do you ask?

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    Re: Animal with the sound [ʒ] as in pleasure

    I am writing English lessons for children and in each lesson a few sounds are taught, not separately, of course, but in words. I'd like to teach [ʃ] and [ʒ] sounds together, in the section about animals and pets. There is no trouble with [ʃ] (a fish, though not exactly an animal, is OK). But I can't think of anything with [ʒ]. If I don't find a word, I'll think of other ways to introduce this sound, but I decided to ask here first.
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    Re: Animal with the sound [ʒ] as in pleasure

    Right. I get it.

    'Fish' does not exactly have that sound (I can't do the IPA squiggle), though it can count as an animal — as could a reptile or amphibian.

    I can't think of one offhand but I'll sleep on it.



    How about kinkajou?

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    Last edited by Rover_KE; 08-Apr-2014 at 23:54.

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    Re: Animal with the sound [ʒ] as in pleasure

    Thank you, kinkajou is very pretty, but it was the first time I had heard about it. I thought kids need more common words.
    As to 'fish', yes, the sound is different, I just wanted to teach these two sounds (sh and j as in kinkajou) together in the topic about animals. Thank you anyway!

    P.S. And on second thought - why not try kinkajou, it may be interesting for kids to learn about a new animal! I think I'll take it.
    Last edited by englishhobby; 09-Apr-2014 at 11:06.
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    Re: Animal with the sound [ʒ] as in pleasure

    I'm struggling to think of a common animal, so the very cute kinkajou may be a good idea.

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    Re: Animal with the sound [ʒ] as in pleasure

    Ohhhh, my new favourite animal!
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    Re: Animal with the sound [ʒ] as in pleasure

    I am not a speaker of AusE but thanks to Lonnie Donegan, I am pretty sure that kinkajou does not contain the sound [ʒ]. It's a plain old ordinary j.
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    Re: Animal with the sound [ʒ] as in pleasure

    Quote Originally Posted by probus View Post
    I am not a speaker of AusE but thanks to Lonnie Donegan, I am pretty sure that kinkajou does not contain the sound [ʒ]. It's a plain old ordinary j.
    I, on the other hand, am a speaker of AusE, and have no idea how the name of this Central and South American animal is pronounced.

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    Re: Animal with the sound [ʒ] as in pleasure

    According to this online dictionary, the word has its origins in French so I can see why it would have the soft "j", as it's pronounced in French. However, I can imagine that even if it started as the soft "j", it's probably becoming a hard "j" as naturally pronounced in most variants of English.
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