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    #1

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    Hello! Recently I've read this two sentences:

    "I would that every window in the street had the name of Jesus written large upon it."


    "Beloved, God would have us to know in these days that there is a fulness of
    God where all other powers must cease to be. "



    Is the first sentence gramatically correct? I 've never noticed the usage of such construction; I think the usual way would be "I would like that ..."

    And as far as the second one is concerned, could it be substituted with this one: "Beloved, God wants us to know..." and which one is more likely to appear in today's language?
    Thanks in advance, and also feel free to correct me whenever you think is necessary!
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    #2

    Re: would... , would have someone to ...

    Hi,
    Please note I'm not a teacher nor a native speaker.

    Definitively it is a grammatically correct sentence as of 1611 AD. As of today it's considered an archaic usage. Have a look here at the grammatical construction, especially at the end of the article.

    Cheers.

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    Re: would... , would have someone to ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fear not, only believe View Post

    And as far as the second one is concerned, could it be substituted with this one: "Beloved, God wants us to know..." and which one is more likely to appear in today's language?
    Yes, and the second version is more likely to appear in today's language.

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    #4

    Re: would... , would have someone to ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaskin View Post
    Hi,
    Please note I'm not a teacher nor a native speaker.

    Definitively it is a grammatically correct sentence as of 1611 AD. As of today it's considered an archaic usage. Have a look here at the grammatical construction, especially at the end of the article.

    Cheers.
    How would then the first sentence read in modern English?

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    #5

    Re: would... , would have someone to ...

    Hi,
    Please note I'm not a teacher nor a native speaker.

    I'm not sure if I'm able to answer your question. Personally, please keep in mind the disclaimer at the beginning of my post, I would say that to keep the expressed desire or/and necessity of subjunctive mood I would go for: I wish that

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    #6

    Re: would... , would have someone to ...

    I agree with Jaskin- I wish would be more common today.

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