The surrounding area where blood was drawn turn into black and blue.

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The surrounding area where blood was drawn turn into black and blue.
The surrounding area where blood was drawn was bruised.

Can we use bruised in sentence above?
 

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I would only use bruise if there were an injury.

After the blood was drawn, the area turned black and blue.
 

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I would use taken here too rather than drawn.
 

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I am not a teacher.

To draw blood is fine in both contexts, in my opinion.
 

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"The surrounding area where blood was drawn was bruised."
Do you mean that the area surrounding where the blood was drawn/taken was bruised? You seem to be saying that the blood was drawn from the surrounding area.
I'd prefer "to take blood" if used in a clinical context. "To draw blood" often means to make someone bleed during a fight.
 

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I would only use bruise if there were an injury.
After the blood was drawn, the area turned black and blue.
Why would it turn black and blue if there were no injury?
 

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I am not a teacher.

I seem to be in a minority, but doctors, or nurses, draw blood with a syringe where I grew up. And if they're not careful about it you end up with some discolouration. Maybe not exactly black and blue but at least yellow.
 

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Yes, "to draw blood" is OK if it's part of the local dialect. But you're right, you can end up with an iatrogenic injury even if they are careful.
 

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Why would it turn black and blue if there were no injury?

Probably because blood leaked out from the venipuncture hole.
 

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Unforutnately, I can't agree with the post above. The area where blood was taken :-o can't turn into black or blue unless there was an injury.
Not a teacher nor a native speaker, just a medicine lover. :-D
 

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If one wishes to consider venipuncture an injury, one is free to do so.
 

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If one wishes to consider venipuncture an injury, one is free to do so.
A venipuncture is the procedure of removing blood from a vein into a syringe; not opening a vein to let the blood extravasate into the tissues. The venipuncture is not the injury. If you're performing a laparotomy and you accidentally perforate the bowel wall, you've caused an injury; the laparotomy is not the injury, the perforation is.
Do you routinely expect black and blue bruising in a veterinary venipuncture? In human medicine, we try to be more careful.
 

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No, we rarely have that problem. That was my point. Venipuncture is not an injury. If a small amount of blood leaks out, it is just one of those things.
 

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@riquecohen: We don't really use the term "ecchymosis" in reference to venipuncture. It is normally used in the context of spontaneous bleeding disorders. I recently dealt with a case of a dog with von Willebrand's disease (platelet function defect) who developed spontaneous petechiae and ecchymoses.
 

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When blood is not drawn properly from a patient, there may be bruising in the general area -- or what a appears to be a bruise (black and blue). There is definitely internal blood leakage. The bruise in time turns yellowish -- then slowly fades away. This is quite common. My experience is that about one out of five times I will get a bruise from blood drawn by a Phlebotomists.


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@riquecohen: We don't really use the term "ecchymosis" in reference to venipuncture. It is normally used in the context of spontaneous bleeding disorders. I recently dealt with a case of a dog with von Willebrand's disease (platelet function defect) who developed spontaneous petechiae and ecchymoses.
So, it seems that you're saying that the black, blue or yellow mark resulting from a venipuncture should not be called an ecchymosis. I'm most familiar with the word from its use by physicians in child abuse reports. In these, the ecchymoses were usually the result of battering.
 

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Yes, 'ecchymosis' is a correct term for a venepuncture bruise.
It's true that doctors usually reserve the term for spontaneous bruises from within, or where there is no skin wound.

n.
pl. ec·chy·mo·ses (-sēz′) The passage of blood from ruptured blood vessels into subcutaneous tissue, marked by a purple discoloration of the skin.
Ecchymosis (plural, ecchymoses)The medical term for a bruise. Ecchymoses may develop around the eyes following a nasal fracture.
http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/ecchymosis


There are some usage notes here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecchymosis
 

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So, it seems that you're saying that the black, blue or yellow mark resulting from a venipuncture should not be called an ecchymosis. I'm most familiar with the word from its use by physicians in child abuse reports. In these, the ecchymoses were usually the result of battering.

Yes, the word can used for bleeding from trauma.
 
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