Results 1 to 6 of 6
  1. thedaffodils's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • Chinese
      • Home Country:
      • China
      • Current Location:
      • China

    • Join Date: Apr 2008
    • Posts: 3,973
    #1

    Mr. President

    Hi,

    In House of Cards, which is American TV series, the President AAA decided to offer Frank Underwood, who is a congressman, Vice Presidency. During their dialogue, Frank always addressed the President "Mr. President", but the President just called him his first name Frank, instead of Mr. Underwood.

    Is it rude for Frank to address the President his first name AAA?


    Lisewise, if my boss called me my first name, should I call him Mr. Johnson, or it is okay for me to call him Peter?

    Thank you!

    P.S. My boss name is not really Peter Johnson.

  2. Raymott's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • English
      • Home Country:
      • Australia
      • Current Location:
      • Australia

    • Join Date: Jun 2008
    • Posts: 24,091
    #2

    Re: Mr. President

    Quote Originally Posted by thedaffodils View Post
    Is it rude for Frank to address the President his first name AAA?It's not the protocol. It's probably for the President to say whether he would consider it rude.

    Lisewise, if my boss called me my first name, should I call him Mr. Johnson, or it is okay for me to call him Peter?
    Your boss generally calls you what he wants to. You call him what he wants too. If you prefer something different, you should discuss it with him. If you prefer being referred to as Mr thedaffodils, he should respect that in most cases. You can't infer that, because your boss calls you by your first name, you can do likewise.

    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • American English
      • Home Country:
      • United States
      • Current Location:
      • United States

    • Join Date: Apr 2009
    • Posts: 12,310
    #3

    Re: Mr. President

    One would have to very, very familiar with the President of the United States to call him by his first name. Even then, for the sake of decorum, you would probably refer to him as "Mr President" when around others.

  3. Barb_D's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • American English
      • Home Country:
      • United States
      • Current Location:
      • United States

    • Join Date: Mar 2007
    • Posts: 19,218
    #4

    Re: Mr. President

    The use of a familiar/first name by one person who is in turn addressed as "Mr.... or Ms...." is a sign of the power dynamics.

    Children call friends of their parents "Mr. X" or "Mrs. Y" in the US.
    My children call my husband (their step-father) by his first name, but their friends call him "Mr. D" and I'm "Mrs. D."

    Even now, as I approach 50, I call my parents' long-term friends (dating back to my childhood) "Mr. X" or "Mrs. Y" because that's how I think of them, unless they say "For heaven's sake, Barb, call me Joe!" or something similar. However, their new friends, whom I met as an adult, I call by their first names.

    When I worked at a factory, the plant manager (a vice president in the company) was "Mr. Edwards" on the factory floor and "Paul" among the professional staff. He wouldn't have minded being called "Paul" on the floor but they just didn't. He called everyone by their first name, if he knew it.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

  4. thedaffodils's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • Chinese
      • Home Country:
      • China
      • Current Location:
      • China

    • Join Date: Apr 2008
    • Posts: 3,973
    #5

    Re: Mr. President

    Quote Originally Posted by SoothingDave View Post
    One would have to very, very familiar with the President of the United States to call him by his first name. Even then, for the sake of decorum, you would probably refer to him as "Mr President" when around others.
    Right, there was another person when Frank and the president was talking. Frank and the president were not very close.

  5. BobK's Avatar
    • Member Info
      • Native Language:
      • English
      • Home Country:
      • UK
      • Current Location:
      • UK

    • Join Date: Jul 2006
    • Posts: 16,038
    #6

    Re: Mr. President

    I remember an early West Wing episode (I think it was one of the tedious ones at the beginning of series 2) when Sam (one of the insiders) upbraided a fellow speech-writer for referring to the President as 'Bartlett' (even when the President himself wasn't there).

    b

Similar Threads

  1. [Vocabulary] President/Former President/Then-president
    By jiaruchan in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 16-Apr-2010, 10:14
  2. Is/Was the first president?
    By TheParser in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 21-Jan-2010, 18:41
  3. president
    By Unregistered in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 19-Oct-2009, 04:31
  4. president
    By Unregistered in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 29-Jun-2008, 10:29
  5. President II
    By Anonymous in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 09-Jun-2004, 21:13

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •