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    #1

    Question when I hear a infinitive(or a participle) sentences...

    I am confused these sentences meaning.
    which one is right?
    how can I catch right meaning when I meet infinitive(or a participle)


    A. James helped her to go home
    1. ~ helped her so that James may go home
    2. ~ helped her purpose




    B. The train began to pull out of the station
    1. the train began so that it may pull out of the station
    2. to pull out the station was begun




    C. I meet him to play soccer.
    1. I meet him in other to play soccer
    2. I meet him who can(will..etc) play soccer


    D. I saw him eating a bread
    1. I saw him as I eat bread.
    2. I saw him who eat a bread.




    and.... Is this wrong grammatically ??

    I kick him who is hated by me
    = I kick him hated (by me).

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    #2

    Re: when I hear a infinitive(or a participle) sentences...

    I'm afraid that it all makes very litle sense. Where is it from?

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    #3

    Re: when I hear a infinitive(or a participle) sentences...

    I assume the explanations are yours. None of them are grammatical, However, in relation to meaning:
    A2, B2, C1 (assuming you mean "in order to"), D2.
    I don't see your problem identifying the infinitive meanings. (A, B, C). D is potentially ambiguous. Usually a sentence would not be written like that. If you were eating, it would read, "While I was eating, I saw him". But without commas or other word order changes, sentences like "I heard her singing; I saw him running away" can only mean that she was singing and that he was running away.

    ABout the 'kicking' question: Yes, your whole post is ungrammatical - apart from some of the index sentences that you're asking about.

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    #4

    Re: when I hear a infinitive(or a participle) sentences...

    I assume the explanations are yours == yes. you are right )-:

    After your reply, I changed questions

    Q1. Can I change these sentence from left to right?
    Is this ungrammatical ?

    1. I meet him in other to play soccer =>I meet him to play soccer.
    2. I meet him who can play soccer. => I meet him to play soccer.
    3. I kick the guy who can help a beggar => I kick the guy to help a beggar.
    4.
    I kick the guy in order to help a beggar => I kick the guy to help a beggar.
    5. I have no friend to help (me) ==> I have no friend who will help (me)
    6. he found the family whom he should look after => he found the family to look after
    7. he found the family in order to look after them =>
    he found the family to look after them

    Q2. When I heard (not read ....) ' a man hold banner reading a book of earth '
    Can I understand like these?

    8. the banner showing 'A book of earth'
    9. While a man is reading a book of earth , he hold banner


    Q3. "A tennis player laughs over the bird sitting on the line of the court"
    After reading this, I made sentences below.... is these right?

    10. A tennis player laughs over the bird which sits on the line of the court
    11. I know her whom I love <== is this right?
    12. I know her loving =>
    I know her whom I love
    13. I know her , loving => I know her whom I love
    14. I know her , loving =>
    I know her as I love
    15. I know her loving me => I know her who loves me
    16. I know her loved (by me) = > I know her who be loved (by me)



    ...

    17. A police officer inspects a bus to be converted into a mobile police station in bangkok today
    =
    A police officer inspects a bus that will be converted into a mobile police station in bangkok today

    18. A police officer inspects a bus to convert into
    a mobile police station in bangkok today.
    =
    A police officer inspects a bus that he will convert into a mobile police station in bangkok today
    Last edited by hewon; 02-Jun-2014 at 02:25.

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    Re: when I hear a infinitive(or a participle) sentences...

    Quote Originally Posted by hewon View Post
    Q1. Can I change these sentence from left to right?
    Is this ungrammatical ?

    1. I meet him in order to play soccer =>I meet him to play soccer.
    2. I meet him who can play soccer. => I meet him to play soccer.
    3. I kick the guy who can help a beggar => I kick the guy to help a beggar.
    4. I kick the guy in order to help a beggar => I kick the guy to help a beggar.
    5. I have no friend to help (me) ==> I have no friend who will help (me)
    6. he found the family whom he should look after => he found the family to look after
    7. he found the family in order to look after them =>
    he found the family to look after them

    Q2. When I heard (not read ....) ' a man hold banner reading a book of earth '
    This phrase is too ungrammatical to tell what it might mean.

    Q3. "A tennis player laughs over the bird sitting on the line of the court"
    After reading this, I made sentences below.... is these right?
    10. A tennis player laughs over the bird which sits on the line of the court
    Yes
    11. I know her whom I love <== is this right?
    It's grammatical.

    12. I know her loving =>
    I know her whom I love
    13. I know her , loving => I know her whom I love
    14. I know her , loving =>
    I know her as I love
    15. I know her loving me => I know her who love me
    16. I know her loved (by me) = > I know her who be loved (by me)

    All the above are ungrammatical.

    17. A police officer inspects a bus to be converted into a mobile police station in bangkok today
    =
    A police officer inspects a bus that will be converted into a mobile police station in bangkok todayPossibly.

    18. A police officer inspects a bus to convert into
    a mobile police station in bangkok today.
    =
    A police officer inspects a bus that he will converted into a mobile police station in bangkok today
    The ones I've struck out are wrong.

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    #6

    Re: when I hear a infinitive(or a participle) sentences...

    please check ^^

    q1. I hit the guy in order to help my friend
    q2. I hit the guy to help my friend.
    q3. q1=q2 ?


    q4. A police officer inspects a bus to convert into a mobile police station in bangkok today.
    q5.
    A police officer inspects a bus that he will convert into a mobile police station in bangkok today
    q6. q4 = q5 ?


    q7. I have nothing to worry about
    q8. I have nothing that I will worry about
    q9. q7 = q8 ?

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    #7

    Re: when I hear a infinitive(or a participle) sentences...

    Quote Originally Posted by hewon View Post
    please check ^^

    q1. I hit the guy in order to help my friend. OK
    q2. I hit the guy to help my friend. OK
    q3. q1=q2 ? Yes


    q4. A police officer inspects a bus to convert into a mobile police station in Bangkok today. No, it's missing something.
    q5.
    A police officer inspects a bus that he will convert into a mobile police station in Bangkok today. OK
    q6. q4 = q5 ? No


    q7. I have nothing to worry about. OK
    q8. I have nothing that I will worry about. No, No one would say this.
    q9. q7 = q8 ?
    R.

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