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    Although and comma

    Look at this sentence. (Came from Cambridge) Do we need a comma If we want to use "although" at the first of the sentence? I think so. Because although shows a contrast and is used for dependent and independent clauses. If not, what's the reason?


    - Although most people pass their Proficiency exam first time round a number of candidates will, sadly, fail.

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    #2

    Re: Although and comma

    There is no reason to use a comma after 'although' in this context.

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    Re: Although and comma

    So why we use comma in most of the context that contains although? What's the difference between them and this example?
    Why can't we write:

    Although most people pass their Proficiency exam, first time round a number of candidates will,sadly, fail.

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    #4

    Re: Although and comma

    Quote Originally Posted by Freeguy View Post
    So why we use comma in most of the context that contains although?
    Could you please provide examples of that?
    Please be aware that I'm neither a native English speaker nor a teacher.

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    #5

    Re: Although and comma

    Are you talking about putting a comma after the word 'although', or at the end of the clause beginning with 'although'?

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    Re: Although and comma

    1. Although in poor health, she continued to carry out her duties.
    2. We decided to take rooms in Longwood House, although we knew we could not really afford the rent.
    3. Although I can't help admiring the man's courage, I do not approve of his methods.

    Considering these examples, shouldn't we write:
    Although most people pass their Proficiency exam, first time round a number of candidates will,sadly, fail.

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    Re: Although and comma

    I could accept a comma after 'first time round' but not where you have put it.

    It still looks and sounds right to me without the comma, though.

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    Re: Although and comma

    My problem with the sentence is that it is unclear where "first time round" belongs. Do most candidates pass the "first time round" or do a number of candidates fail "first time round"? In either case, the comma is critical. I just don't know where to put it.

    Although most people pass their Proficiency exam first time round, a number of candidates will, sadly, fail.
    Although most people pass their Proficiency exam, first time round a number of candidates will, sadly, fail.

    Two different meanings.

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    #9

    Re: Although and comma

    You say, Freeguy, that the sentence "came from Cambridge". Which particular publication?

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    Re: Although and comma

    Punctuation and grammar drive me nuts at times.

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