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    BOTH

    Hi there! I was wondering if you could help me with this question, please?
    Which sentence is correct?
    1. Please sign both first and second page.
    2. Please sign both first and second pages.

    Despite the fact that BOTH is used with plural nouns, I think in this example the first one makes sense since one needs to sign each page separately.
    What do you think? One more thing: Do we need THE before first and second or not?
    What about this one:
    3. The structure of both the first and the second book is the same.
    I'd appreciate your comments. Thank you very much indeed.
    Last edited by niamadpour; 16-Jun-2014 at 12:40.
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    Re: BOTH

    Please sign the first page and the second page.
    Please sign the first and second pages.
    Please sign both the first and second pages.

    The structure of the first and second books is the same.

    I can see why the last one gives learners a headache. It looks as if "books is" has been used. However, "is" must refer back to "structure".
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: BOTH

    Thank you very much indeed. :)
    So is it completely wrong to say : Both first and second PAGE? Because I've seen it in some books (not Grammar books though).
    And I cannot use THE after both twice.
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    Re: BOTH

    Quote Originally Posted by niamadpour View Post
    So is it completely wrong to say : Both first and second PAGE?
    Have you ever seen "both side" instead of "both sides"?

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    Re: BOTH

    What about this one taken from Alchemy of the World:: In the fourteen years that intervene between the appearance of the first and the second book, The Overthrow of Cabalistic Theology, Lobokowitz had turned evidently into a determined opponent.
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    Re: BOTH

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    the first and second books
    Quote Originally Posted by niamadpour View Post
    the first and the second book
    The constructions are not the same.

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