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    why sometimes people say da instead of the

    Hello, i am Chris from France
    I was in Chicago last couples weeks and i notices that chicagoans people say da instead the and even with than and that and i know that's incorrect but why ?

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    Re: why sometimes people say da instead of the

    Quote Originally Posted by lazyenglish91 View Post
    Hello, I am Chris from France
    I was in Chicago the last couples weeks and I noticed that people in Chicago say "da" instead of "the" and even with than and that - [I don't understand this part] and I know that's incorrect, but why[no space]?
    Hello Chris.
    Why is it "incorrect"? Why do they do it?
    Please note that the pronoun "I" is capitalized every time. Not doing so is indeed "lazy English."

    I know quite well that there are regional dialects and accents in France. Are you surprised that there are accents and dialects in English?
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: why sometimes people say da instead of the

    I grew up in Chicago, and I can confirm that some Chicagoans say "da" for "the" especially when they are talking rapidly. This sort of thing happens with many words in many different places. It is not uncommon, for example, for the word "for" to come out as "fer" in rapid speech. In New York, especially in the outer boroughs, you will hear people who say "aks" instead of "ask".

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    Re: why sometimes people say da instead of the

    Thank you.
    Do you say Da in particular times or only when you speak fast ? how about vanishing the TH sounds such as 'em instead of them does that include these, those and this as well or no ?
    Thank you in advance
    Chris

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    Re: why sometimes people say da instead of the

    Quote Originally Posted by lazyenglish91 View Post
    how about vanishing the TH sounds such as 'em instead of them does that include these, those and this as well or no ?
    You'll hear that in many regions- people do the same in the UK.

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    Re: why sometimes people say da instead of the

    Quote Originally Posted by Abhishek Tavildar View Post
    This will be very helpful and would have all the answers to your questions .
    Well, so you've claimed before, and again, you're wrong. A book on RP will not explain why people say 'da' for 'the' in Chicago.
    Please let me know if you don't understand this, and I'll explain further.
    A book on RP for $2.99 will not answer all the pronunciation question we get here.
    Last edited by Raymott; 17-Jul-2014 at 08:40.

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    Re: why sometimes people say da instead of the

    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    You'll hear that in many regions- people do the same in the UK.
    I think I told someone (maybe this poster) that (almost) no one drops the "Th" from 'these', 'those' and 'this'. Was I wrong? They might say "dese, dose, dis", but I can't imagine, or remember hearing, "'ese, 'ose or 'is".

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    Re: why sometimes people say da instead of the

    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    Well, so you've claimed before, and again, you're wrong. A book on RP will not explain why people say 'da' for 'the' in Chicago.
    Please let me know if you don't understand this, and I'll explain further.
    A book on RP for $2.99 will not answer all the pronunciation question we get here.
    The spammer has left the forum.

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    Re: why sometimes people say da instead of the

    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    I think I told someone (maybe this poster) that (almost) no one drops the "Th" from 'these', 'those' and 'this'. Was I wrong? They might say "dese, dose, dis", but I can't imagine, or remember hearing, "'ese, 'ose or 'is".
    Okay but how about songs? Let's take this guy for example. He pronounces "and they" as "aney". Is it okay when singing?
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=coHKdhAZ9hU

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    Re: why sometimes people say da instead of the

    Anything is OK when singing.

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