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    STILL and YET in negative sentences.

    Dear teachers and members:


    I have learned that YET should be used in negative sentences and questions, and that STIIL in affirmative sentences and questions.

    Other than the above rule, I have also learned that there may be exceptions to the rule, or other rules within the same rule. I have seen STILL used in negative sentences, but according to what I have noticed, STILL as usual remains before the verb, except with the verb TO BE, but I think it basically comes before the word NOT.

    Different from STILL, YET comes after the negative word NOT or at the end of the sentence.


    1) I still don't understand your arguement.

    2) I don't understand your arguement yet.

    3) I still haven't spoken to my lawyer.

    4) I haven't spoken to my lawyer yet.

    5) I'm still not sleeping.

    6) I'm not sleeping yet.


    NOTE: It seems to me that it might be a difference in meaning between the sentences 5 and 6.


    QUESTION:

    Is it not advisable to use STILL in negative sentences, and it always comes before the negative word NOT?


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    Re: STILL and YET in negative sentences.

    Quote Originally Posted by The apprentice View Post
    Is it not advisable to use STILL in negative sentences, and it always comes before the negative word NOT?
    About 37632 results found using 'STILL NOT' on http://fraze.it/n_search.jsp?q=still...0&t=0&sugg=off

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    Re: STILL and YET in negative sentences.

    Thank you Mathew Wai


    According to your post, now I can affirm that STIIL always comes before the particle NOT in the negative form no matter which verb is used.


    That web site you already posted (Frazeit) it's very interesting.
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    #4

    Re: STILL and YET in negative sentences.

    No, you can't.

    Click here to see an equal number of results from the same source using not still.

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    Re: STILL and YET in negative sentences.

    No, many of the results are actually 'still not' instead of 'not still'.

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    #6

    Re: STILL and YET in negative sentences.

    Now you're talking Mathew Wai because in the above ROver_KE's post those clauses having NOT before STILL do not belong to the clauses having STILL in them, and almost most of them are separated by a comma from the clauses where STILL is; for example:


    1) Whether I play football or not, I still should be able to make it in this world.

    2) He now admits that we're not winning in Iraq, but still thinks we're not losing

    3) The All Blacks do not want France to still be in the game with 20 minutes to go


    Thanks again Mathew Wai
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    #7

    Re: STILL and YET in negative sentences.

    I think "still not" is more common than "not still", but don't make a rule out of it. In many constructions both could be used but with different meanings.

    I can't believe he is still not here. (He hasn't arrived yet.)
    I can't believe he is not still here. (He arrived but left already.)

    Is John not still married? (Did the marriage break up?)
    Is John still not married? (Is he single?)

    We are not still eating. (The meal we had is finished.)
    We are still not eating. (We are fasting.)
    Last edited by MikeNewYork; 01-Jul-2014 at 06:47.

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    #8

    Re: STILL and YET in negative sentences.

    Quote Originally Posted by The apprentice View Post
    That web site you already posted (Frazeit) it's very interesting.
    I don't know whether you know the following site, which is also interesting.
    http://corpus.byu.edu/bnc/

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    #9

    Re: STILL and YET in negative sentences.

    Do you still not recognize that the 'rule" is wrong?

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    #10

    Re: STILL and YET in negative sentences.

    Does an interesting site have anything to do with a wrong rule?

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