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    leading to vs before

    "Magnetic separators are installed in a production line before crushing and grinding machines." Could I use here ' leading up to' for 'before'? What about 'prior to' and 'ahead of'?
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    #2

    Re: leading to vs before

    That depends on what the sentence means. Are the magnetic separators installed before the crushing and grinding machines are installed?
    Are the separators installed where they act on the product before it reaches the crushing and grinding machines? Or something else?

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    #3

    Re: leading to vs before

    Before the product reaches the crushing and grinding machines.

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    #4

    Re: leading to vs before

    You see: active voice verbs ('the product reaches') are often clearer. Your explanation shows that the installation doesn't matter at all here; the relative positions do. So you could improve the original not just by using 'before' but also by omitting any mention of installation and introducing the idea of sequence (which makes it clear what sort of 'before' you mean).

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    PS If you change to 'before' without removing the mention of installation, the poor reader is left with the idea of a purely temporal before - happening before the installation. You have to fix the whole sentence, rather than just tweaking a word or two.
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    Re: leading to vs before

    How could I write a sentence to mean that a magnetic separator is installed in a prodcution line before the other machines, where 'before' means the place in the production line in which it is installed? Ahead of? Or could I use the verb 'to place' for 'to install' in the sentence?
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    #6

    Re: leading to vs before

    I managed it in #2. You might need to use the extra few words to be unambiguous.
    "The magentic separator is placed earlier in the production line than the other machines." You might get away with that. It depends on how unambiguous you want the sentence to be. I don't think an adverb can do the job here.
    "The magentic separator is installed on the production line such that it acts on the product before reaching the other machines."

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    #7

    Re: leading to vs before

    Thanks. You've been a lot of help. It's now clear to me.

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    Re: leading to vs before

    ostap, you've been a member long enough to know that a click on 'Thanks' is all we need to see.

    I've just waited 40 seconds for that last post to appear on my screen, thanks to my slow internet connection.

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    Re: leading to vs before

    Or "The product passes through a magnetic separator before entering the crushing and grinding machines."

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