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    The Apollo restaurant, 23rd and 9th.

    In Frankie and Johnnie, the Al Pacino's film, there is a dialogue, addressing their cafe, they say: "
    The Apollo restaurant, 23rd and 9th." I couldn't understand how a unique store could have two streets, 23rd and 9th, in its address.

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    Re: The Apollo restaurant, 23rd and 9th.

    This is common in New York City. It could mean it is on the corner of 23rd Street and Ninth Avenue or close to that corner.

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    Re: The Apollo restaurant, 23rd and 9th.

    The red marker is at "23rd and 9th".

    https://www.google.co.uk/maps/previe...ed=0CCEQ8gEwAA
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: The Apollo restaurant, 23rd and 9th.

    The first one always goes for a street and the second for an avenue? (I think it is necessary because without this rule we couldn't find where the address is.) Am I right?

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    #5

    Re: The Apollo restaurant, 23rd and 9th.

    No, you can give the two roads in either order. They only cross in on place. That's how you know where it is.

    You may also hear something like "On Chestnut between 8th and 9th" if it is not right on the corner where Chestnut and 8th cross.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: The Apollo restaurant, 23rd and 9th.

    Quote Originally Posted by atabitaraf View Post
    The first one always goes for a street and the second for an avenue? (I think it is necessary because without this rule we couldn't find where the address is.) Am I right?
    This is the convention in New York City, but it is not universal.

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    Re: The Apollo restaurant, 23rd and 9th.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    No, you can give the two roads in either order. They only cross in on place. That's how you know where it is.

    There could be two crosses: 8th and 9th; and 9th and 8th.

    You may also hear something like "On Chestnut between 8th and 9th" if it is not right on the corner where Chestnut and 8th cross.
    What does Chestnut mean? I couldn't find out what you mean. Are there three streets: Chestnut, 8th, and 9th?
    Last edited by atabitaraf; 18-Jul-2014 at 01:03.

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    Re: The Apollo restaurant, 23rd and 9th.

    "Chestnut" is a street name.

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    #9

    Re: The Apollo restaurant, 23rd and 9th.

    Usually, the first street name is where the actual address reside. Suppose it is 1289 Chestnut, near the corner of Main.

    If we want to give an approximate location, we just say "I live on Chestnut and Main."

    Very few houses are exactly on the corner.

    In your example, the restaurant is probably on (West) 23rd Street, near the corner of 9th Avenue.

    The order has nothing to do with whether it is a street or an avenue.

    If it is exactly on the corner, we still commonly use the actual location street name first.




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    Re: The Apollo restaurant, 23rd and 9th.

    For New York City, that is not correct. It could just as easily be on 9th Avenue near 23rd street.

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