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    A group of mountaineers

    Please would you correct the mistakes in my sentences.

    1.A group of mountaineers who have been lost, have finally been found.
    or should I maybe write:
    2. A group of mountaineers who were lost, have finally been found.

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    Re: A group of mountaineers

    They both work for me.

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    Re: A group of mountaineers

    As you are about to see, in BrE, we tend to say that "a group" takes the singular.

    A group of mountaineers, which had been thought lost, has now been found.

    Mind you, I find "A group of mountaineers, thought to be lost, has now been found."
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: A group of mountaineers

    Yes, "group" is singular, but "mountaineers" is plural. It is arguable whether the relative clause attaches to "group" or "mountaineers". This is another area of subject-verb agreement that has no clearly correct answer.

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    Re: A group of mountaineers

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    Hello, Bassim:

    1. I believe that you forgot the comma after "mountaineers." I believe that "who have been lost" is a non-defining clause. That is, it is information that the readers probably already know.

    2. So let's simplify it to "A group of mountaineers _____ finally been found."

    3. "Group" is a collective noun. Most American books teach us that a collective noun takes a singular verb if YOU think that it is referring to the whole UNIT; it takes a plural verb if YOU are thinking of the INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS.

    4. In my OPINION, the writer of that sentence was thinking of the group as a UNIT. Thus, I should choose "has."



    James
    Last edited by TheParser; 20-Jul-2014 at 13:13. Reason: Format problems

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