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    By the time

    Hi guys,

    Can we say "By the time I started working here, I haven't been able to sleep well"?

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    Re: By the time

    No,you can't. You could use Since I started.

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    Re: By the time

    If some body asks me "Since when have you started doing this" . Can I say "By the time I have joined this org" or "Since I have joined this org". when can we use "By" and how"?

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    Re: By the time

    Can I say "By the time I have joined this org"
    No.
    "Since I have joined this org"
    Use Since I joined.

    By sets a limit. If you say By the time I joined, you mean in the period before you joined- By the time I joined the organisation, I had paid for three years' membership.

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    Re: By the time

    Is it correct to say 'by the time I quit the organisation, I will have learned much'?

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    Re: By the time

    As long as you and the listener know that you are using "By the time I quit" to refer to the future, yes. It's one of those potentially ambiguous sentences at the beginning. "By the time I quit the organisation, I had learnt a lot" is also perfectly possibly because the past, present and future of "to quit" are identical.
    Remember - if you don't use correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing, anything you write will be incorrect.

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    Re: By the time

    So we can say "I will have learned a lot by the time I leave this company" and it is safe to use "Since" for past instead of "By".

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    Re: By the time

    How do you get to that position given https://www.usingenglish.com/forum/threads/211407-By-the-time?p=1087729#post1087729? You can use the past with by, but not in the way you wanted to use it.

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