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    line up

    When I got into the line, there were about 10 people lined up.

    In the above sentence, is “lined” an intransitive verb or a transitive verb?

    A friend of mine, who is American, says it’s a verb and it’s just past tense.
    But I thought, if it’s an intransitive verb, it should be past perfect tense and “who had” is missing before “lined up”. (This “who had” can’t be omitted, can it?)
    If it’s a transitive verb… I’m not sure.

    Please help me understand this part of the sentence.

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    Re: line up

    'There were about 10 people lining up' should be grammatical.

    Not a teacher.

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    Re: line up

    Hello, herbivorie.
    I agree with Matthew.
    However, it is possible that 'who' is dropped in that construction - there were about 10 people who lined up.
    Michael Swan, in his Practical English Usage Third Edition (on page 486) writes:

    omission of subject
    In a very informal style, a subject relative pronoun is sometimes dropped after there is.

    There's a man at the door wants to talk to you.
    If you'd like to read previous discussions on this, please see here.
    Neither Mike nor Raymott likes the construction.

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    Re: line up

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Wai View Post
    'There were about 10 people lining up' should be grammatical.

    Not a teacher.
    There is a difference. People who have lined up have formed a line. I wouldn't say that they continue to be "lining."

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    Re: line up

    Quote Originally Posted by SoothingDave View Post
    There is a difference. People who have lined up have formed a line. I wouldn't say that they continue to be "lining."
    Hello, Dave.

    Do you think 'there were about 10 people lined up' is natural?

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    Re: line up

    Quote Originally Posted by tzfujimino View Post
    Hello, Dave.

    Do you think 'there were about 10 people lined up' is natural?
    Absolutely.

    Compare "There were ten cups on the table filled with tea."

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    Re: line up

    Quote Originally Posted by SoothingDave View Post
    Absolutely.

    Compare "There were ten cups on the table filled with tea."
    Thank you, Dave.
    Your example can be interpreted as 'Ten cups on the table were filled with tea', which is in the passive.
    How about the original? Would 'About ten people were lined up' work?

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    Re: line up

    Quote Originally Posted by SoothingDave View Post
    People who have lined up have formed a line. I wouldn't say that they continue to be "lining."
    'line up: to stand in a line or row'── quoted from http://www.oxfordlearnersdictionarie...e_2#line_2__41
    Can 'lining up' mean 'standing in a line' according to it?

    Quote Originally Posted by tzfujimino View Post
    Would 'About ten people were lined up' work?
    If the above definition is correct, it should be 'were lining up'.

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    Re: line up

    Quote Originally Posted by tzfujimino View Post
    Thank you, Dave.
    Your example can be interpreted as 'Ten cups on the table were filled with tea', which is in the passive.
    How about the original? Would 'About ten people were lined up' work?
    There were about ten people lined up = About ten people were lined up.

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    #10

    Re: line up

    There were about ten people lined up = There were about ten people who had been lined up by someone else.
    There were about ten people lining up = There were about ten people who were standing in a line.

    Are they correct?

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