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    Past participle

    Hi there,

    I always have trouble with this grammar issue. Why do we use past participle on issue that haven't occur yet?

    Examples:

    1) please keep this door locked at all times.


    2) we have not advanced our interest.


    3) I don't want to get involved.

    Any help or links to provide relating this issue will be greatly appreciated.

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    #2

    Re: Past participle

    Here's another example:

    Probability of adverse events that have not yet occurred: a ...

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    Re: Past participle

    I am not a teacher.

    In 1. 'locked' is an adjective. The door is locked or unlocked. It is a state.

    2. is a negation of the affirmative sentence, 'We have advanced our interest'. We have or we have not. It has nothing to do with something that hasn't yet occurred.

    In 3. 'involved' is an adjective.

    The answer to the question in post #2 is the same as 2. above.

    Is your native language really English?

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    Re: Past participle

    Hi Roman55

    Thanks for responding.

    For#2, Would it be correct to say "We have advance our interest" without adding the "d" at the end of advance? If it is not correct, why?

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    Re: Past participle

    I am not a teacher.

    No, it wouldn't be correct. We have is either followed by a verb conjugated in the present perfect or by the to infinitive.

    'We have advanced', or 'We have to advance'.

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    Re: Past participle

    Hi Roman55,

    Thanks again for replying. Are you able to provide any links so I can further read up on this issue?

    I've been using the English language for a long time. However, when you speak the language, you miss these details.

    Thanks!

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    Re: Past participle

    Your mistake comes from thinking of the third form of the verb, the participle (advance, advanced, advanced), as the past.
    The third form is used many ways -- with present and past perfect, for example: I have advanced, I had advanced.
    It's also used as an adjective: The locked door, the tilted house.

    Some verbs have the same form for past and participle. Some do not (sing, sang, sung). Just because they look the same does not mean they are the same.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: Past participle

    Hi Barb_D

    Yes, you understand my problem perfectly. Is there any information (link to a webpage or reading) that you could provide that would solve this issue?

    Thanks!

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    Re: Past participle

    Alternatively, if you could describe this problem, I will search for it myself.

    Thanks!

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    #10

    Re: Past participle

    For a description of past participles as adjectives you could try here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/le...rnitv325.shtml
    You could also search for "irregular verbs in English".

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