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    #1

    all of who

    I've got two questions about the text below:
    1) Does it sound natural? If not, or if it's dated, could you please correct it?
    2) Is all of who used in modern English the way it is used in the text?

    My three boys are all very active and also very diverse. Matthew is a very bright and talented musician; he loves to play the piano. Peter is a very friendly, creative boy who likes to dance. Alex is the easy-going youngest who loves whatever is happening as long as he is involved. All of the boys love sports of all kinds. As well as all the family, they are looking forward to your visit in September. To add to the confusion, we also have two dogs (Carley and Solomon) and two cats (Marmaduke and Alpha), all of who are friendly and love people.
    Last edited by englishhobby; 03-Sep-2014 at 18:09.
    If I were a native speaker of English, I would never shut up. :-)

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    #2

    Re: all of who

    I want native speakers to say whether the whole text sounds natural and whether the "all of who" is used properly.
    If I were a native speaker of English, I would never shut up. :-)

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    #3

    Re: all of who

    Grammatically, it should be "all of whom."

    But there is no need for the "all of" at all. We have two cats and two dogs who are friendly and love people.

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    #4

    Re: all of who

    Hello.
    I feel something is wrong with 'As well as all the family, they are looking forward to your visit in September.'
    Is it not 'They as well as the rest of the/my family are looking ...'?

    (Edit) I think it is a typo- 'Peter is a fery [I suppose it's 'very' that you meant] friendly ...'
    Last edited by tzfujimino; 03-Sep-2014 at 16:28.

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    #5

    Re: all of who

    Quote Originally Posted by tzfujimino View Post
    'They as well as the rest of the/my family are looking ...'
    Is it simpler to say 'My whole family is looking ...'?

    Not a teacher.

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    #6

    Re: all of who

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Wai View Post
    Is it simpler to say 'My whole family is looking ...'?

    Not a teacher.
    Yes, but there might be some reason that englishhobby is using 'as well as' there. (It might be better for us to make as few amendments as possible to the original.)
    Last edited by tzfujimino; 03-Sep-2014 at 17:14.

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    #7

    Re: all of who

    Matthew, it's time to ask you again to refrain from making suggestions or proposing alternative versions until teachers or native speakers have had the opportunity to answer. The thread becomes very cluttered when we need to consider your comments as well as the OP's question.

    I have deleted the above posts to tidy up the thread.

    You can ask supplementary questions later.

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    #8

    Re: all of who

    Quote Originally Posted by tzfujimino View Post
    I feel something is wrong with 'As well as all the family, they are looking forward to your visit in September.'
    Is it not 'They as well as the rest of the/my family are looking ...'?
    I am not a teacher.

    I agree that this sounds wrong.

    To keep it conversational, I would suggest 'Together with/along with the rest of the family...'

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    #9

    Re: all of who

    Quote Originally Posted by englishhobby View Post
    As well as all the family, they are looking forward to your visit in September.
    Okay, that's where it gets weird. Try something like:

    We are all looking forwards to your visit....

    Or:

    They are looking forward to your visit, and, of course, Bob and I are too.

    And if you want to add a little humor you might say:

    They are looking forward to your visit, and the dogs and cats are too.


    Quote Originally Posted by englishhobby View Post
    To add to the confusion, (What confusion?) we also have two dogs (Carley and Solomon) and two cats (Marmaduke and Alpha), all of who are friendly and love people.
    I would make that two sentences, thus:

    We also have two dogs and two cats. They are all friendly and love people.

    Finished!


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    #10

    Re: all of who

    'Matthew is a very bright and talented musician, Peter is a very friendly creative boy, Alex is the easy-going youngest, all of whom love sports of all kinds.'
    Is 'all of whom' used properly here?

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