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    How could i recognize use that and which or not !?

    Hello .

    How could i recognize use that and which or not !?

    1. In German folk legened , kobald is the name of a spirit ----- in the earth .


    Lived or that lived ?






    2 . A throne is a chair ---- by a queen , king or other rulers .


    Occupied or which occupied ?




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    Re: How could i recognize use that and which or not !?

    Which ones do you think are correct and why?

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    Re: How could i recognize use that and which or not !?

    Hi . I know the answers but dont know why !!!

    First is that lived and the second is occupied

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    Re: How could i recognize use that and which or not !?

    A relative pronoun is necessary in 1 but unnecessary in 2.
    For more information about relative pronouns, see http://learnenglish.britishcouncil.o...ative-pronouns

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    Re: How could i recognize use that and which or not !?

    Thank you matthew but i didnt understand again :( .


    My final is going to start one hour later please help me recognoize its essential for me :

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    Re: How could i recognize use that and which or not !?

    ***** NOT A TEACHER ***** Hello, Alimoosavi: I may (may!) have found at least one explanation. 1. Kobald is the name of a spirit that / which lived in the earth. = "Good." 2. Kobald is the name of a spirit lived in the earth. = "Bad." 3. A throne is a chair that / which is occupied by a queen. = "Good." 4. A throne is a chair occupied by a queen." = "Good. "IF (If!) I understand correctly what I found, the difference is this: In sentence #1, the verb ("lived") is an active verb. Thus, you cannot delete (drop) "that / which." In sentence #2, the verb ("is occupied") is a passive verb. Thus, you may delete "that / which" + "is." NOTES: 1. If you have forgotten the difference between active and passive verbs, you may wish to check your books or the Web. 2. After the test, please let us all know how your teacher explained the difference. I VERY MUCH want to know. My source: Mesdames Celce-Murcia and Diane Larsen-Freeman, The Grammar Book / An ESL / EFL Teacher's Course (1983 edition), page 381. They give this sentence: "Which cowboy was the one who was thrown by that horse?" It can be reduced to "Which cowboy was the one thrown by the horse?" Only my sentence: "Which cowboy was the one who rode the brown horse?" Since "rode" is an active verb, one cannot delete "who."



    P.S. My post has NOT been published in the format that I chose. Sorry for the bunched-up sentences. I have tried my best to separate the sentences.
    Last edited by TheParser; 14-Sep-2014 at 12:39. Reason: technical problems

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