[Grammar] I don't know how can i analyze "having" sentences

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Hello dear friend.
I don't know how can i analyze sentences that have "having" word.
I don't know having is verb or adj.
something is like "Since JavaScript runs on the client, it can respond to events without having to interact with the web server, so things change instantly in the browser, without the user having to press a Submit button."
somebody can show me a good resource for these sentences?
I need help.
Please help me.
Have a nice day.
Thank you.:)
 

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I'm sure you understand the meaning of the sentence, but you're not familiar with the grammatical structure there, right? The grammar here is quite basic, really. You should study a grammar book, and I'd recommend "Understanding and Using English Grammar". Other titles may also be good, but I haven't read them yet.
 

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I'm sure you understand the meaning of the sentence, but you're not familiar with the grammatical structure there, right? The grammar here is quite basic, really. You should study a grammar book, and I'd recommend "Understanding and Using English Grammar". Other titles may also be good, but I haven't read them yet.

Hello my dear friend.
I understand the meaning of sentence but I don't know why writer write "having" in this sentence, i don't know how can i analyze this sentence.
 

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"Having" acts as gerunds here. Gerunds function similar to nouns. You'll find everything you need to know about them in chapter 14 & 15 of the book I mentioned.
However, I still advise you to study a whole grammar book if you are to take English seriously.
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"Having" acts as gerunds here.
I think 'having' acts as a gerund in 'the user's having to'. Without the apostrophe -s, it is not a possessive form and 'having' should be a present participle here. Please correct me if I am wrong.

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I think 'having' acts as a gerund in 'the user's having to'. Without the apostrophe -s, it is not a possessive form and 'having' should be a present participle here. Please correct me if I am wrong.
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My book, which I mentioned above, still classifies it as a gerund. In more formal situations, the sentence should be constructed as you described.
By the way, I guess you meant possessive 's.
 
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My book, which I mentioned above, still classifies it as a gerund.
Do you mean your book says the -ing form in 'someone doing something' is a gerund instead of a present participle?

I guess you meant possessive 's.
The apostrophe -s (which means 's) is used to form the possessive, am I wrong?
 
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Do you mean your book says the -ing form in 'someone doing something' is a gerund instead of a present participle?
Nope.
The apostrophe -s (which means 's) is used to form the possessive, am I wrong?
The "possessive 's" comprises an apostrophe and an 's', but I don't think it's called "apostrophe -s". Well, I may be wrong.
 

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The "possessive 's" comprises an apostrophe and an 's', but I don't think it's called "apostrophe -s". Well, I may be wrong.

You are wrong.
 

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Hello, Mr. Corter:

May I add my two bits (humble opinion) to the interesting discussion?

Here is what I was taught:

"Things change instantly, without the user having to press a button."

1. "Without" is a preposition.

a. Thus, it needs a (pro)noun as an object. (For example: Without the need to press a button)

2. The writer of that sentence decided to use an -ing word ("having").

a. An -ing word that is used as a noun is usually called a gerund.

i. A gerund is a verb form used as a noun.

3. As the other members reminded us, the subject of the gerund can be in the possessive case or not.

4. In my opinion, many books would probably prefer "without the user's having to press a button." But I am sure that some books might even prefer simply "user."

a. Compare:

i. "Things change instantly, without you having to press the button."
ii. "Things change instantly, without your having to press the button."

(I personally prefer the sound of 4.a.ii.)

In fact, one could simply say: "Things change instantly, without having to press the button."



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You are not wrong.



Hello Dear Moderator.
Do you know how can i analyze that sentence?
"Having" in this sentence is gerund?
If it is gerund, what does whole sentence mean?
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what does whole sentence mean?
I take it to mean 'things change instantly in the browser, the user doesn't have to press a Submit button'.

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